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1. Please comment and vote

2. Seriously, please comment and vote

3. Don't be a d!ck about it

1. Please comment and vote

2. Seriously, please comment and vote

3. Don't be a d!ck about it.



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Voted Linean
August 29, 2015, 3:50
Only voted
Voted Dragonlordmax
August 29, 2015, 7:01
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Concise and gets the point across, but I'm not sure how useful the advice is.

Also, it's not 100 words. ;)
Voted Stork
August 29, 2015, 12:27
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OK
Voted Aramax
August 29, 2015, 18:59
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The last word 5/5
Voted Cheka Man
August 29, 2015, 22:00
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Voted Morningstar
August 30, 2015, 5:19
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Um, ok.
Voted Strolen
August 30, 2015, 10:39
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Voted Mageek
August 30, 2015, 16:12
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Sure
Voted Raldog2020
August 31, 2015, 5:19
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Scrasamax
August 31, 2015, 6:27
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We have a good number of submissions that break down how we should vote, how we should comment, what we should say and what we shouldn't. We can post critique guidelines and how to be better commentors, but there is something that is more important than that.

Participation.

All the voting and commentary guides in the world don't matter a lick if there is no one commenting, if there is no one voting.
Longspeak
August 31, 2015, 15:59
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You're right. But I do think HOW matters as much as whether you participate or not. I have been very bad about voting because I find votes alone to be worthless. I don't want to receive only a vote, so I won't leave only a vote. But I have lacked the time to really offer useful commentary of my own. Maybe it's time to change that line of thought.
Moonlake
August 31, 2015, 19:51
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Longspeak, I've been meaning to tell you this but somehow didn't feel the opportunity to. I think part of the reason you were disenchanted with voting could be to do with the new system of voting you were experimenting with: the 5 criteria vote with breakdown attached. Personally, I like to be somewhat consistent in my votes and that's why I put up my own voting practice (well, not my own sub but my own voting scroll attached to Forganthus's sub titled "How I vote") but I'm never one for detailed breakdowns. I mean, if I've got some issue that I want to discuss in details then I just say it. But I don't have a personal thing for a criteria-based vote with detailed breakdown. Reminds me too much of assignment marking in uni and such and just too a 'scientific' approach for me (okay, so I'm not internally consistent given that I was the one so hung on the concept that my votes have to be 'consistent' from day to day). I don't know whether the same applies to you but I thought such an approach sapped too much energy out of you. In contrast, if you were to vote the way that you previously voted which was basically a numeric score plus whatever else you wanted to say about the sub, then voting would require less energy and 'effort'.
Longspeak
August 31, 2015, 23:39
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Moon, you're right and you're wrong. I'm not into the voting, but the 5-criteria didn't cause that. The 5-criteria was my attempt to *correct* that. I really don't like just leaving a vote. Feedback, comments, some form of discussion, sharing of ideas. That's what I want to see. But I was having trouble finding constructive feedback on many submissions. The result? Many subs read, very few votes, me not practicing what I preach. So the 5-criteria was a way of trying to find things to say, so that I could then vote.

Of course, not everyone wants the same sort of feedback, which I wasn't really taking into account. That's part - but only part - of why I haven't voted in a while. The main reasons though have no relevance here.
Moonlake
September 1, 2015, 20:39
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I can empathise, I too always want to provide constructive criticism and have a discussion going on but I learnt to go with my heart also with the Strolenati Sunday. What I mean by this is that if I have little to say about a particular sub, I don't force myself to say a lot- what I would be saying in such cases would probably be rubbish anyway. But I also set a bottomline of not just voting (okay there were past incidences of me doing so) but now at the bare minimum I would put in "what a score of xx said" (a practice I took from some other Strolenati, Cheka Man I think but not sure).

Anyway, back to this sub at hand, I think #2 from Scras is what we should be keeping in mind. If a particular sub doesn't chime with us enough that we can really put in constructive criticims, we shouldn't be stressed out all over it and then refrain from voting and commenting on it. To me, this somehow feels a little like we as commenter is so stressed out over the commenting over a particular sub that we are pulling our hairs out but we force a calm down on ourselves by running away. But such behaviour would be quite ridiculous if you look it from the common logic angle i.e shouldn't the author be more stressed than us over that? And if everyone engages in such behaviour, then we get little comments (which we do quite often at the Citadel). I just think (now that I'm thinking objectively) that the culprit of such behaviour- this high expectation we place on ourselves as a commenter, is sometimes a little excessive and we should from time to time cull it back to a more reasonable level.

Anyway, I'm rambling. I say comment and comment to the best possible length and depth that you can and learn to live with no more than that.
Ancient Gamer
August 31, 2015, 16:24
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I added 6 voting subs, to give people an inkling on how many times someone has written about this subject.

I propose we bump this every time someone writes a new sub about voting, and then add his to the suggested submissions list.

Voting is tricky.

The more you care, the better you write, but the more you go ballistic if a vote isn't in your favour.

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