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The Haven Fortress in itself is inpenetrable. It stands on a high sheer cliff where the cliff meets the sea, the ocean pounds against the cliff so a naval attack is out of the question. The only way if to attack it from the front, but that way is guarded Holy Paladins, who protect the secrets that are housed in the Fortress, self-efficent to try to make the people inside starve inside would be useless.
It’s full force of men is around 15,000 paladins and 2,000 archers, ruled as a city-state is independent and always stays neutral, never interfereing in world affairs.
The Holy Paladins come from all around the world, diffrent raises accepting them in their order without hesitation they teach them in their arts. They are devotely devoted to the God of Light and are very religous and poetic.
The Haven Fortress is guarded three ways by the cliff, and their only entrance has a moat running from one end to the cliff to the other side, a small narrow bridge is the only way around, falling into the water would mean death, as the people have added man eating eals in the water of the moat, that could shred a man to pieces
April 1, 2005, 7:38
April 4, 2005, 7:10
The fortess is ok as a setting. It is even ok if the Paladins consider themselves invincible. The truth would probably be different, every fortress can be taken given good tactics and sufficient manpower & arms.
April 5, 2005, 2:40
Many fortresses are meant to guard more than just the people within...
April 5, 2005, 4:54
April 5, 2005, 9:36
June 5, 2005, 19:18
June 5, 2005, 19:33
June 23, 2005, 14:46
June 23, 2005, 23:07
Can you imagine the difficulties in supplying 15,000 men in a remote fortress with only one entrance?! Not to mention, your little "haven" becomes a deathtrap for the defenders when the opposing army simply camps on the other side of the bridge leading to the Fortress, blocking all supplies to the fortress, thus starving the paladins (boring cliches) to death, at which point the enemy strolls on in.
And in any case, why even attack it? I guess it's self-sufficient, so even if they don't starve to death, you'll never beat them. So just leave it. It has no purpose, because apparently, it's totally neutral in every way, and only observes world affairs.
Boring.
2/5.
June 24, 2005, 1:38
So actually, I see them annoying -eh, aiding- the surrounding lands to no end :D
June 25, 2005, 12:38
June 25, 2005, 14:36
Am I abusing my freedom of speech if I say a movie is boring? Hardly so.
If a speech is boring, I will either leave or point out its lack of interesting content.
By posting here, all members subject their works to the judgement of others - it would serve no one if we talked like: "Oh, forgive me my intrusion, but in my opinion, though irrelevant it may be to you, the post about the Haven Fortress could use improvement, no insult intended."
June 25, 2005, 15:39
The freedom of speech is precisely the reason why I am allowed to say what I said.
July 11, 2005, 15:00
For more than a tinge of unbelievability(an impregnable fortress? how many truly impregnable fortresses exist, none), I have to give this a 2/5
March 12, 2006, 23:34
THAT is why I think America's schools are failing.
And WHY IN THE HELL did I give this even 2 points?!
March 14, 2006, 8:31
Sorry, but I think it should rest in peace.
March 14, 2006, 14:07
If you never commented on it, nobody would of noticed it until a bit of random pick up (which I am assuming how you found it again). In short... leave it alone. Otherwise it will soon be more active and popular than the most "hit" post on the site... which is awful.
February 26, 2007, 16:01
"Yes in the time of the Great Kings, when all men were ruled by wisdom and justice, the greatest of all strongholds was the Fortress of Haven. There, under the beneficient guidance of the Holy Patriarch of Light, did 15,000 paladins gather from all the lands of men. They committed themselves to good works and the study of the ancient lore, swearing nevermore to bring the sword against the peaceful kingdoms," intoned the storyteller, as he related the ancient and well-embroidered tale. "Someday, my son, the Great Kings will return to lead us anew, and wisdom and justice shall return to the benighted lands."
As a "real-world" fortress, it needs substantial rethinking. A stronghold similar to what you describe would be a city unto itself, with many thousands of additional people to provide the basic functions of society. A force of 17,000 would exceed the number of troops fielded by entire kingdoms in the Middle Ages, so a city that supported such a force of trained fighters would need a population numbering in the 100,000s, rivaling population centers such as Florence or London.
Consider that the medieval Crusaders numbered no more than 1,800 knights (with numerous other personnel present). Assuming that these 15,000 paladins were drawn from a large region, they would represent the total fighting force of a MASSIVE population: Approximately 15 million people, rivaling medieval France in numbers.
Details about the function of the city are called for: How do they conduct trade? Is it self-sufficient in the event of a seige? What sort of water supply and food stockpiles does it have? How does it deal with its wastes?
February 26, 2007, 16:49
February 26, 2007, 16:57
Sangreal
http://www.strolen.com/content.php?node=2229
October 20, 2010, 16:51