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Gibberish from the soapbox
« on: December 13, 2013, 11:59:24 AM »
http://thehackernews.com/2013/12/chinese-hackers-spied-on-european.html?m=1

Now that is how its done!!

That beats leaving obvious tracks and rummaging around like a demented grandma! (like some agencies are wont to do)
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Re: Gibberish from the soapbox
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2013, 02:42:54 PM »
Down with the flu. Might as well do something fun, so I bought the post apocalyptical game The Last of Us. Feels like the Walking Dead, only so much better!
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Re: Gibberish from the soapbox
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2013, 09:22:44 PM »
Finished playing "The Last of Us".

It was an utterly exciting and well spent time, though it only lasted three days (five days for regular folk, who doesn't give up on life and become a drooling gamer zombie)

This one goes out to all of you, especially Scrasamax: Play this game!

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Re: Gibberish from the soapbox
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2013, 11:03:26 PM »
Actually Last of Us is on the short list of games I would like to play. I've read up on it, and it looks pretty awesome


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Re: Gibberish from the soapbox
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2013, 03:58:49 AM »
That looks awesome. Watched a couple videos on it. Wish I had the flu! :(

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Re: Gibberish from the soapbox
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2013, 10:56:59 AM »
Haven't played it, but this is what I've read about it;


http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2013/06/19
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Re: Gibberish from the soapbox
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2013, 01:44:18 PM »
Yeah. The NPC AI isn't that good. The monster AI is excellent, however.
They thank you, they flank you, then they shank you.

Flu isn't that great when you've got stuff to do.
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Re: Gibberish from the soapbox
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2013, 12:36:35 PM »
Games I am eagerly waiting for

1. The Witcher 3
... Because the Witcher series never, ever disappoint.
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2. Dragon Age 3: Inquisitor
... Okay, DA1 was geniusm, DA2 was pitiful, and DA3 is built upon the age old "Portal to Hell has been opened" metaplot. But still, I wanna play it.
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3. Thief
I've always loved the Thief franchise, and I hope this time around thief will be as unnerving as the last time I played it. The Shalebridge Cradle, though not your average Thief sneak and hide level, was one of the best horror sequences I've ever played. And the Hunter Killers chasing Garret in Thief 3 were utterly unnerving, gave me chills down my spine whenever I heard them.
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Re: Gibberish from the soapbox
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2013, 04:47:44 PM »
I'm torn on the new Thief.  Video of course looks good, and I can forgive them for getting a new voice actor (which seems to have stirred up a hornets nest on the intertubes) but the gameplay I saw in the previews struck me as not having the right tone.  The bullet time and mark/execute type mechanics rub me the wrong way in regards to the Thief series.  Garrett was a great thief, but he could never stand toe to toe against a guard, and once they knew you were there retreat was always the best option (if you didn't just reload your last save).

I'm not going to say that they're changing it so it sucks (adding the glowy effect to lootin 3 was nice because it significantly cut down the number of times I accidentally picked up a wooden cupand gave away my position trying to set it down) but the fact that they would say something like this makes me worried "We want you to play as a thief, but we don’t want to force you to play as a thief.”  In my mind this is kinda like saying in regards to madden 20xx "We want you to be able toplay football, but not force you to play football."
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Re: Gibberish from the soapbox
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2013, 12:11:48 PM »
Hahahaha, they don't want to force you to play as a thief in a game named Thief? Oh goodness, what is the world coming to. Why not hide some grenade throwers in the game as well, throw all subtlety out the window.
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Re: Gibberish from the soapbox
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2014, 06:24:02 AM »
http://t.co/VrPGwmbcDP

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Re: Gibberish from the soapbox
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2014, 07:37:17 AM »
http://t.co/VrPGwmbcDP

How do you like dem apples?

State sponsored agitators, saboteurs and harbingers of ruin.


It's breathtaking in it's malign magnificence, turning online tyranny and social engineering into what looks to have been a very boring power point presentation.


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Re: Gibberish from the soapbox
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2014, 11:24:09 AM »
The PowerPoint Presentation went down like this:

*Middle aged, balding man stands in front of a small group of young geeks with glasses and braces*

"aaand on the next slide, we see the results of sending fake SMSes together with female calls to mister Taylor... Within four weeks his wife moved out of the house. Tapping into the microphone on his mobile, we overheard that she belives him to be unfaithful as we hoped"

*Clicks a remote, and the powerpoint presentation switches slides*

"So, of course, we posted an anomynous message on their local forum, where a distraught customer claims that Mr. Taylor would help her out, but that he demanded a blowjob to do so..."

*The geeks laugh, one shouts "Pwned!"*

"And that was that. The target was neutralized and hung himself in the garage four months later; his marriage lost and his company on the verge of bankruptcy"

*Everyone stands up and cheers*
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Re: Gibberish from the soapbox
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2014, 06:51:19 PM »
Thief: A Review

We're going to start with my biggest complaint, Garrett is once again saving the world City.  Of course, because this is a reboot the last three times didn't happen, so I guess it's even.  Actually, that's not actually my biggest complaint story wise, that dubious honor would have to go to our good friend the Thief-Taker General.  Not only does he have the single most retarded title I think I've ever heard given in a game, but his characterization is so far over the top that by the time the writers got done introducing him on the first level you see him I couldn't take him seriously.  Anyway, level by level review.

Prologue:  You're introduced to Erin, the cocky thief/assassin/sidekick/trainee/whatever who's presumably a callback to the end of Thief 3 (which didn't happen in this time line, but whatever) whose incessant whining made me want to kill, despite the fact that Garrett complains about how violent she is (I kept Garrett's non-sociopathic tendencies in mind for a whole three levels, before I just wanted to finish the game so I started killing anything that moved.  Anyway, before too long all my wishes were granted and she dies.  But it gets even better, the cause of her death would earn her a Darwin award if she was real: she falls through a glass ceiling while some old guys are chanting around a mysterious glowing rock (of doom) to retrieve a tool she made recently.  Because really, when you just told Garrett not 5 minutes ago "You should make one of these, they're pretty cheap and I got it done in a couple of days" it makes PERFECT sense to go running out onto a skylight while a dark ritual to progress (yes, at one point during the ritual the fact that it was to Progress was mentioned) is ongoing in the room underneath you.

Level 1: I'm really not all that sure why they deigned to call this a level, all it is is you running through a couple of alleys and a jewelry store to get back to your hide out.

EXPLORING THE CITY: While most of my review is going to be sticking to the story, I felt like I needed to mention this, there's windows you can crowbar open while you're exploring the City, except some of them change zones while others just let you break into someone's apartment.  There's no way for you to know which ones do what until you try them, so sometimes you're on you way to the next mission and you see one of them and go "I know what I'll do, I make enough money to buy a couple of water arrows" and then BAM, loading screen.  And of course the mission was in the zone you just left, so you immediately get to do a 180 and sit through the screen again.  YAH!

Level 2: You hit up your friendly neighborhood fence, Basso.  He complains that you've been gone for a year, of course Garrett's response to this shocking news is "Huh."  Also Basso has a job for you, an old dead guy has a ring on his finger, do to the ongoing 'gloom' the City's management has decided it's safer for all the bodies to be brought to a central facility to be burnt, so the plague doesn't spread and what not, also so they can loot the corpses, but you know.  ANYWAY, the old guy never took the ring off his finger, so you need to break into this corpse plant and steal it.  Now at the end we meet the Thief-Taker General.  He's a cripple, so he hobbles on screen with his knee brace and cane (Evil Cripple... check) and asks the guards on duty if they've checked the body of the guy you came to grave rob.  The guard who had been checking him says something along the lines of "I just pulled him off the rack boss, don't look like he's got anything on him though" so the TTG walks over and checks the fingers of the dead guy, looks in his mouth pokes him a couple of times and starts complaining about how the guards aren't doing their job. (I'm sorry, but really, this is an old nobleman, not a prisoner at in-processing, that SHOULD be all you need to check if you're looking for gold.)  Mr TTG then grabs a meat cleaver (useful for when the fingers start to swell up a few hours after death) and cuts open dead guy's stomach (Grave Robbing... check, mutilating a corpse... check), pulls the ring out, and shoots the guard for being incompetent (Killing underlings... check).  Now writers, I understand you want use to know that he's the bad guy, but any one of those actions would've been fine (except the crippled part, there are a couple of good cripples in fiction. Like Dr X and... um... Dr X.) there is absolutely no need to lay it on this thick, ever.

Mr. TTG then locks his ill-gotten gains in his safe and heads on out.  Meanwhile you break into his office, which is located right next to the incinerators so that he can smell the beautiful smell of burning humans how ever many hours he spends here a day.  BUT WAIT! The moment you crack his safe he bursts back into his office and finds you.  OMFG RUNZORS!!!!

Level 3:  Basso takes you to meet the Rasputinesque leader of the revolution against they tyrannical leadership of the City, who was also the one that hired him to have someone procure that ring.  Fun fact, he has another job for you, getting a book from some ruins.  In this midst of him talking you pass out and are presented with a vision of Erin telling you to get something from her old hideout.  Sure...  You leave Orion, break into her place, get some crappy foreshadowing that Erin is still alive (all my dreams are shattered) complete with surreal landscapes where you move half speed and can't see two feet in front of you and head out with a weird circular thingy.  Onwards to the whorehouse! 

Now there's a couple options here, you can make everyone pass out by ODing on opium or you can sneak by everyone like a nonsociopath... I took the opium option, because Garrett is immune to things like passing out and choking on his own puke.  Anyway, at some point in the middle of this whole operation you can peer through a keyhole where you get to see the Madame and Our Dearest Friend talking.  The high points of this conversation are, the Madame is actually a transvestite and Mr TTG is fond of mixing business and pleasure.  During the conversation he mentions the black tax (Extortion... check), the fact that if the Madame doesn't comply with the increased rates then her next shipment of opium might be misplaced (Drug trafficking... check) and that he likes sleeping with little girls (pedophilia... check).

Garrett proceeds to go into a collection of underground ruins that the weird circle magically opens, with a bunch of stained glass windows with the Keepers keyhole on them to grab the book Orion wanted.  Of course you opening up this place didn't go unnoticed, despite the fact that everyone should be dead from an opium OD, including the dozen guards that the Dame sent down to take a look around.  This of course means that the way you came in is out of the question, but look, there's a convenient tunnel that has you come out in one of the bed chambers where Our Dead Friend is currently beating a hooker (Assault... check, Hitting a women... check, most likely assaulting a minor... check) he also knocked over an oil lamp and because the hooker is an idiot that can't keep her mouth shut found out you were hiding under the bed (Arson... check).  Also: OMFG RUNZORS!!!!

Level 4: Basso's pet bird comes flopping into your bachelor pad, except it's bleeding out of its chest and immediately stops moving.  Probably a bad sign, I think checking on Basso would be a good idea.  When you get to his place Orion is busy tearing it apart looking for the book that Basso hadn't given to him before he got picked up by the Law and put in prison (please no zombies... please no zombies...) you two have a nice game of you scratch my back I'll scratch yours, and off you go to save Basso.  Of course, first things first you need to go talk to the guy that Orion said might know a way into the place.  Something happens, I'm not sure what, but that plan didn't work out so instead you go and break into the manor of the architect that designed the city hall/jail/factory/Combine Citadel in the center of the City to find some plans so that you can find a weak point.  Of course the city Guard are there trying to talk to this guy too, so you sneak by them and break into his library, where he hung himself.  Despite the fact that there's no less than more furniture than the average American possesses in front of the doors leading into his library, the moment you have the plans for the Citadel in hand the guards miraculously make the doors go from completely shut to gaping open and spot you.  Oh and: OMFG RUNZORS!!!!

At the tower you find a bunch of people rioting and loudly proclaiming that the only way to make the city better is by hanging a bunch of rich folks, and possibly hiring a French guy to invent a more efficient way of dealing with large amounts of political prisoners. (I will be honest, they don't actually say that last part.  It would have made it so much more bearable if they had though...)  You sneak in though an air duct that conveniently broke right in front of you, rescue Basso and decide that, since you're here anyway and the architect had a post-it note with the safe's combination on it, you might as well have crack at the vault where they keep all the treasure in the City.  Everything is going swimmingly until you go to enter the second half of the combination when the Thief-Taker General barges in, shoots you in the hand and proceeds to gloat over how you're totally boned now.  (Evil gloating... check)

Of course you proceed to finish breaking into the vault to find a piece of glowing rock of doom and not much else right before the building explodes around you, luckily you're in a 20' cubed vault so that they 20 story drop doesn't kill you...  Yeah...  At least I didn't need to run for my life twice this level.

Level 5: Some more creepy dreams and 6 days later (Garrett still hasn't changed the field dressing he slapped on the arrow hole through his hand.  He should probably get that taken care of, it wouldn't do to have his whole arm rot off because he didn't keep his cuts clean.  Basso isn't looking much better, the bruises on his face are still fresh.  There's a few possible explanations for this: Basso took up bare knuckle boxing and Garrett has decided that stabbing himself in the hand every day is a good idea, people in this alternate reality heal 6 times as slow as real people or none the animators have ever been punched in the face.  I personally feel the second option is most likely.  Oh, and you get to visit the asylum that weird vision Erin told you to visit for answers.  Long story short she's still alive, is being kept drugged out of her mind and also somehow turned a bunch of prisoners into monsters that look strangely like the Silence off of Doctor Who, without the fancy suits.  Also the Baron is probably the one that got her out of the Asylum.  On a side note, no one magically found you at the end of this mission, so no running for your life.  It's the little things that make life enjoyable.

Level 6:  Time for a talk with the Baron about where Erin is, and what exactly went on that night 8 days to a year ago.  The level design here is actually reminiscent of earlier Thief games, with multiple legitimate paths that don't reconvene every five feet.  Anyway, if you dig around some you find out that the previous Baron Northcrest was an opium addict, which might explain where the Thief-Taker General came from.  A holdover from the old regime that hasn't been fired because of union regulations or some such.

When you reach the Baron and have your chat he tells you that Orion isn't the stand up guy he presents himself as (NO!  REALLY?!) and is in fact Aldous Northcrest.  Also he has Erin and is planning on forcibly extracting the McGuffin out of her very soul, probably killing her as a result.  Personally I have no problem with this plan of action, but I'm pretty sure that I'm supposed to save her or something.  Big d**n heroes, yah...  The Baron shoves you back in the elevator and off you go to the Manor proper, which has conveniently been invaded by slavering hordes of French revolutionaries/commies/Orion's people.  Now I really don't understand it, but they don't like you, despite the fact that you've done multiple jobs for Orion and follow a very similar dress code as them.  All Garrett would have to do to blend in with them is smear some ashes on his face and then draw a couple lines across it with the blood of any of the 10 fallen guards you see in that first room.  There's also the fact that I killed or knocked out all but 5 or 6 of the guards, which should have earned me a lot of brownie points.

So you sneak down to the power station they installed under the ritual chamber that was blown up at the beginning of the game and proceed to steal another piece of glowing doom stone at which point SUPRISE!!!!!!  It's our favorite person in the world.  Now, in my mind, there's a glaring plot hole here.  How exactly did the Thief-Taker General hobble by 20 heavily armed revolutionaries?  The entire city is burning and they're killing everyone with ties to the old regime, and yet he somehow waltzed on through.  Anyway, he steps on your hand and gloats at how he's going to pickle your hands and mount them above his fireplace (Not learning his lesson about gloating in the past... check) during this time Garrett escapes and makes his way through the sewers until he comes out on London Market Street Bridge, which is on fire and falling down...

Wait for it...

OMFG RUNZORS!!!!

Level 7: You're gifted with a cut scene of the Queen of Beggars telling you that Orion killing Erin would be Bad for the City.  Yes, that's Bad with a capital b.  Apparently the old coot thinks that if Erin is killed with the power of the glowing stones of doom still inside of her the entire city will die a horrible death.  Also Garrett's glowing eye of time slowing and highlighting interactive features of the environment is the last piece of the glowing stone of doom.  Onwards to the Underdark Undercity Tomb Raiding conveniently buried ruins that apparently form the foundation of the City.  I'm only going to bring up the biggest problem with having a set of ruins this large underneath a major city: they tend to collapse.  This is not to say that people don't build cities on top of old ruins, in real life or fantasy settings, but when they do it's generally common knowledge that such things exist.  Garrett seems utterly clueless about the extent of them when he's taking an elevator down 8 stories underground.

So at this point I murdered my way through roughly two score of Orion's followers, those that I just knocked out I tossed over the edge of bottomless pits.  I'm pretty sure any one of them that's still part of Orion's personal army has either killed an innocent or raped someone during their pillaging/burning of the City, so I'm not going to loss any sleep over it.  Also I receive concrete proof that Erin was here at some point, more of the Silence are walking around.  Now I feel bad about wasting those explosive arrows on groups of guards that made the mistake of clustering together.  Looking on GameFaqs I find that if I had put points into my combat skills I'd be able to kill them with regular Fire arrows instead of the exploding ones, but I truthfully saw no point in this, an arrow to the face kills you pretty dead, and increasing my combat skills wouldn't make it any more deadly.  Le sigh.

After killing another eight guards I make my way into a ritual chamber, where Orion is anointing his followers with the blood of the lamb Erin.  After some weird Erin vision where I apparently stole a religious symbol out of Orion's hands the Thief-Taker General shows up.  I'm starting to think he installed a tracking beacon in Garrett, because there's literally no other logical explanation for this.  We're at least 80 feet under ground in a room filled with people that want him dead.  I doubt he's working for Orion, because the coup would've gone a lot smoother if he had been, namely the Baron would've been killed in his sleep and his long lost brother Aldous would have stepped in and become the new Baron.  No need for bloodshed, and Orion could have begun his reformations in peace.

Level 8: Orion apparently was building a boat.  Why?  I don't know.  How was he keeping this from the Baron? I don't know.  The longer this game goes on the more plot points I just don't understand.  Anyway, I murdered my way through the ship and played a game of tag with Erin, she turns a bunch of people into those Silence things and then my glowing stone of doom breaks into 3 pieces again.  Le sigh.  After playing another game of tag with Erin, where now I'm hiding and she's cheating by making it so that her tags are actually light that hurts a lot I finally collect the pieces together again at which point she gives up.  Huh, I really wasn't expecting it to be that easy.  I get a nice cut scene and then all of a sudden Erin falls again, and Garrett seems to think it's more important to slap the book we grabbed for Orion than help his partner.  Yeah...  I'm not sure I understand anything about this ending.  At all.

Final Thoughts: Mechanically wise the game is decent, and the level design doesn't totally suck.  Granted the levels largely are on rails with any choices you're given on paths being purely cosmetic, but unless if you're regularly restarting because you're trying to go through a level without being spotted you likely wouldn't notice that.  My biggest complaint is with the plot, which makes about as much sense as a fever dream.
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Re: Gibberish from the soapbox
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2014, 03:12:21 AM »
So... What did you think about the Thief-Taker-General?

Here in my home town we have an AG-Taker-General that keeps pestering me and showing up wherever I go!! It is true!111!!!


Seriously, your points are valid. Not something that annoyed me as much as it obviously annoyed you, but I did notice them. I did not bother trying to restart levels. Having played Assassin's Creed a little too much, I thought "how difficult could it be to kill them?", because I really did not want to sneak ALL the time.

The Silent, eh, the Erin thingies, were rather difficult, but super easy to sneak past. Much easier than regular humans, but I mostly killed them with fire.

All in all the game smacks of: "Young designers and GMs writing the plot and NPCs, plus: Rushed by the studio managers"

So, still to be judged:
The next Witcher  (Which I am sure will rock!)
Dragon Age 3 (Which I am sure will suck!)
and the top 3 roleplaying games at kickstarter: Torment!!!!!!!!!, Wasteland 2!!!!!!!!, and Project Infinity!!!!!

All of the last three games have been crowdfunded (No annoying studio execs!!!!!) and by old skool gamers!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/inxile/torment-tides-of-numenera?ref=discovery

The inExile Studio video at the top of this page illustrates my points perfectly!

Also, looks like a healthy gamer environment. Gamers and geeks are being treated rather unfairly in the corporate world, where sportstalk is the meat and staple (YUCK!).

I mean: I love a little weight lifting, but the suits need their hineys kicked something fierce!

Also the plot makes no sense.

The game was a bit fun, but it could have been so much better.

Also, you did not comment on the fact that the Asylum was pretty much Shaleford Cradle version 2.0... Only that the Shaleford Cradle was better ;)
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Amidst all the wonderful things happening to the environment right now, the third world war might be coming too!

Perhaps we can all play Bleakwood in real life! Yay!

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Forget selfies, forget belfies (butt selfies), now it is all about dronies!

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