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Citadel Tavern / Re: Amazon eBooks
« Last post by valadaar on Today at 08:20:28 PM »
Mind if I post a like to what we have? Some fresh eyes may help, and fresh input might help loose Mathom's hold on me.
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Citadel Tavern / Re: Amazon eBooks
« Last post by Strolen on Today at 06:00:39 PM »
I would love to empower and enable this in almost any way available. I have been wanting to write a novel since I was in 8th grade. I have shelves full of books on it. A dream, probably one that will never come true, but I LOVE to read about writing anyway. :) Rambling as well...I probably wouldn't be writing anything soon but if we started...I would be on board. Right now work is a minimum of 10 hours a day and leave me spent so I will give what I am able.

But Val has put a huge foot forward writing an ebook and it is a 90% solution if I would get off my ass and do some reviewing of it. I have spent hundreds on art and templating for it, not all used but all getting us closer to what we need and Val, again, has put us right on the edge of greatness. I would be willing to put what resources I have in a hat to enable this and support those that are willing to go forward with it.

Are you suggesting putting together our own publishing group? Joining another?

We can get art. There are plenty of people that will do a good 'nuff piece of cover art for a reasonable price. While I only dabble, I have done all the graphics on the site and the quest covers so, if you think that is acceptable enough, once we get art putting some titles on it is in the realm of my comfort zone.

All said. I am in. Worst case scenario, people flex their story telling skills and develop as writers. Best case...it works. Where do we start?

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Citadel Tavern / Re: Amazon eBooks
« Last post by fantomx11 on Today at 04:14:20 PM »
I should have been more clear. By "content" I meant the content of the book, not the content of the design.
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Citadel Tavern / Re: Amazon eBooks
« Last post by Scrasamax on Today at 01:35:58 PM »
I've dabbled in the graphic design side of it and even released a couple of things for free on drivethrurpg, but my biggest problem I have is that I have trouble generating enough quality content that I'd feel comfortable charging for it. If there were a group that could help me grow in that direction, I'd join it.

Our graphic design dabblers (and a font-phile) regularly put out some pregenerated covers into the group. The titles and names are made up, but the art is there, and the colors and fonts and it looks good. Price tag? I've seen it generally run $30-$50 per cover, and bundled rates, multiple covers for a reduced rate. That's a bit more important since the works being generated are small, that 5-8k word count.
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Citadel Tavern / Re: Amazon eBooks
« Last post by fantomx11 on Today at 01:31:51 PM »
I've dabbled in the graphic design side of it and even released a couple of things for free on drivethrurpg, but my biggest problem I have is that I have trouble generating enough quality content that I'd feel comfortable charging for it. If there were a group that could help me grow in that direction, I'd join it.
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Citadel Tavern / Re: Amazon eBooks
« Last post by Longspeak on Today at 12:05:15 PM »
Scras, I feel ya. I've longed to see my name on the cover of a piece of work. Maybe one day I'll even finish a work of sufficient quality and length to try that. :P

The site drivethrufiction.com is a sister site to drivethrurpg.com, well known among gamers as a great place to get epub gaming stuff.

Now my experience is so far mainly with drivethrurpg. There, people place smaller things all the time with 99 cent price tags, or even "pay what you want, often with a choice of formats for those who prefer .mobi or .epub over pdf. I've never published through them, so I don't know what it's like from that perspective, but the availability of many low-cost options had made me expand me horizons a bit.

This might make a good way to get your toes wet, at least. A good place to see what the market is like, what catches peoples' collective eye?
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Citadel Tavern / Re: Amazon eBooks
« Last post by Scrasamax on Today at 10:49:39 AM »
I think the biggest difference is that in the other group, we have people who have concrete experience on getting published online, the nuances and details, that we don't necessarily have here.
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Citadel Tavern / Re: Amazon eBooks
« Last post by Moonlake on Today at 03:43:12 AM »
We've done some of that here, but nowhere near the scale.

Right, that's why my personal opinion is that the Citadel as a whole doesn't seem quite ready for that kind of stuff but if we can get a substantial number of Strolenatis that are interested in being published on a small scale like you suggested, we might have the needed 'critical mass' to go on such an enterprise.
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Citadel Tavern / Re: Amazon eBooks
« Last post by Scrasamax on Today at 02:36:16 AM »
Lots of stream of thought stuff. The writing group I'm part of has gone to another level, well beyond any writing group I;ve been part of before.

There are several graphic designers and while we are writing for ourselves (nothing wrong with that) they are discussing cover design. They are discussing actual formatting, and font, and how to package and get the stuff they write sold.

It's just something I've not encountered before.

We've done some of that here, but nowhere near the scale.

And some of them are making money from it.
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Citadel Tavern / Re: Amazon eBooks
« Last post by Moonlake on Today at 02:01:57 AM »
Scras, I get what you are saying here but personally I'm of two minds about it. Firstly, I love writing w/o any restrictions which largely means that I'm not writing for any audience besides myself (and Strolenatis). This largely rules out the possibility of my making a living out of writing. On the other hand, I've revived my dream of writing a fantasy series so that it's no longer a 'dream' but something that I would work to turn into reality (and unfortunately, my taste do run towards epic). For this goal, I need to get into practice. So money aside, what you suggest seems to be a way to help me get into practice if for nothing else. And then, of course, the reality is that I could do with some additional money too atm and it would be a bonus if I could get it through writing. But that's me personally.

The other point you raised is whether the Strolenatis as a group know who they are writing for and to. I would say that as things currently stand, most are writing to and for gamers. As for the Strolenatis themselves, I reckon most are thinking of themselves as either pure gamers or hobby writers. So I'm doubtful as how much leverage we have at the Citadel to form a publishing group. Besides me (who's borderline interested), I know Dossta is but he had wandered offsite. We have a few authors who are into fiction like Sil, Axle and Ourouborous who's actually writing on his own setting but not sure about their attitudes to publishing. So yeah, I don't know whether we will get the momentum to start a Citadel publishing group. Then again, I can't speak for the whole Citadel so you never know.
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