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Capitalism is the new Feudalism
« on: March 02, 2015, 06:34:38 AM »
For years I have worked in the financial sector, and then I worked for years in surveillance.

I have been to cocktail parties where the big honchos nip their drinks and laugh their asses off, mocking the "stupid sonsof&^%$@es who eke a living out, barely making their bills". These guys are filthy rich. When you get up in the morning, going to work, they get up and get a blowjob from some insanely pretty girl who opted to sell herself as a golddigger wife in exchange for an easy life. When you look at the clock, yearning for lunch, they look at the clock and call the secretary in for another blowjob. When you finally are able to go home, exhausted after a long day a work, these guys pick up their expensive wives and their ton of newly shopped designer clothing and go home to a meal prepared for them.

Society is hierarchical, like in the days of feudalism, and capitalism is the machinery that makes it thus.

I thought I was alone in thinking like this.

Then I read this article by Aral Balkan
https://aralbalkan.com/notes/europe-we-need-to-talk-about-institutional-corruption/

Right now, Aral Balkan is a supreme US thought leader, alongside folks like Elon Musk.

In Europe we don't have thought leaders anymore. Just patriarchs and their sycophants. I feel like I live on a continent where an indoctrinated menagerie of servile sycophants constitute the population. Where the politically correct stifle creativity and actual thought, where it is more important to uphold a facade, to keep up appearances, than to make a difference.

A shadow circus.

Where people look the other way, paving the way for the upper echelon to do as they please.

Feudalism.

I don't like the world we are leaving to our children.

And I don't like what happens to those who try to make a difference.
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Re: Capitalism is the new Feudalism
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2015, 07:40:13 AM »
I agree with 90% of what you are saying but have a different conclusion. The  lower and middle classes have always carried a tougher burden. And yes the upper class is corrupt in every way you say. But there is no viable alternative to the western capitalist way of life. In what ever form of government ,there is always a,to one degree or another, an oppressive upper class. I can't say for Europe, but here in the US even under our current socialist regime, upward mobility is an option rewarded to those willing to work for it. Yes, more wealth is concentrated among the 1%ers than ever before, and that needs to be addressed. Based on my mental health issues , my family is poor with just my wifes income of 60K a year, but I have a reasonable way of life and enjoy the bread and circuses of $258 dollar a month cable TV. I eat meat for every meal. Once I get back to work in the spring our future will be way more sunny! The lifestyle of first world nations is incredibly high.If I lived in Africa or Asia, I'd prob be in the jungle with an AK.I feel for your frustration , but it is the natural order of things.
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Re: Capitalism is the new Feudalism
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2015, 09:18:30 AM »
I agree with AG, it's all a shadow game.

Nothing has changed, there is a small elite that is running things, and most of the time they are going to be running things. The only time they aren't running things is during small windows like the French Revolution, the Bolshevik Revolution and other bloody violent uprisings where there is a changing of the guard and a new set of leaders is installed.

Here in the US, everything is bought and owned by the corporate, special interests, and the deep pockets of the ultra-wealthy. There is a dog and pony show of elections, and peddling pills to the masses, cooking the books all the way around, and it's time for me to put on my tinfoil hat.

China knows how to oppress large populations, they've been doing it consistently and effectively for thousands of years. Disarm, demobilize, and distract.

Disarmament - the progressive democrat party pushes a hard Gun Control policy that should really be called Civilian Disarmament. The hue and cry is to ban assault rifles and automatic weapons, despite the fact that the vast majority of gun crimes and accidents are small capacity revolvers and pistols. People with machine guns aren't shooting each other. People with cheap handguns are. But handguns and shotguns are not very useful in fighting an insurgency or secession. On top of impressive support and campaign for this disarmament, we are seeing the 1033 program which is seeing federal funds being used to finance local law enforcement agencies purchasing surplus military hardware. The police are getting body armor, machine guns, drones, and armored vehicles designed not for military combat, but suppressing and occupying hostile populaces. The Bearcat MRAP is a riot control vehicle, not a stand and fight military vehicle. Martial law and military occupation in the US in the past has been a joke, because as Yamamoto said, invading the US would be a disaster because there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass. A disarmed populace is at the mercy of it's government.

Demobilization - A basic tenet of American life is mobility, if you don't like where you live, you pack up your things and your family, and you move somewhere better. There is a boom going on somewhere, be it California, or the Dakotas, or Alaska, or the Midwest. The biggest symbol of American mobility is the automobile, and we are seeing that industry being mutated by government fiat. CAFE standards are moving towards fuel efficiency (A laudable goal) but the end effect is that to reach the numbers no being put up, everything is going to hybrid, and electric. Hybrids and electrics are fine if you live in a major city or urban area, but not much else. A prius cannot pull a trailer, it has little offroad capability. If the power goes out, it is suddenly limited in it's range. In a natural disaster like a flood, blizzard, etc, they are rolling traps with little ground clearance, no torque, and no power. If you have a truck you can go most places, you can carry things, people, you can tow a trailer, pull another vehicle, and do logistical things that hybrids and electrics cannot. You are effectively demobilized.

Extra tinfoil hat - newer cars have drive assist programs where the car can break, stay in it's lane, or park on it's own, and they are smart vehicles that are connected to the internet. Your Mercedes can contact the dealership to let them know when it needs it's oil changed (ref - Top Gear). If the government wants you to stay the f*** off the road, they could in theory access the computers of said vehicles and tell them to not start. How many people could rewire their car to bypass the electronic drive control systems?

Distraction - Distraction comes in two forms, dumbing down and circuses. The dumbing down has been in progress for decades through the public education system, with schools changing from places where you learn not just basics but what you might do with your life. The vocational trades are dropped (shop, autoshop, ag) because they are expensive. The arts (music, art, drama) are dropped because they don't immediately contribute to test scores, and we are moving to the point where the public education system is the mold stamping machine that turns students into college applicants, for further indoctrination. Smart enough to pull the levers and push the buttons, but dumb enough to not ask questions.

The second stage is circuses. What color is the dress? Who wore what to the fill in the blank awards? Who had a wardrobe malfunction, who released a sex tape, who accessed and leaked thousands of celebrity nudes? While the populace is arguing over the popular television show, nationalized scandal (Treyvon Martin anyone?) real issues are overlooked because they aren't cool, argument worthy, or people can't fap to it.



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Re: Capitalism is the new Feudalism
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2015, 09:28:30 AM »
Second Stage

1984

Oceania is always at war.

The US has been in Afghanistan for over a decade. Support the troops. The US has interceded in Syria, Lybia, ISIS, Iraq, Africa, the Ukraine. Support the troops. Support the troops, they are fighting for our rights, they are defending America. They aren't. I'm sorry, but they aren't. They are fighting for our economic interests, for our national policy interests, and for what the government wants them to do. The military industrial complex is taking a massive sum of money to keep running, churning out tanks that we neither need, nor want, but because the factories and subassembly plants are in politically contentious regions of the country, they do not shut down. Same goes for the F-35 project. The cheaper support plane for the F-22 has cost much more than the last ten years of war in Afghanistan, but it is a white elephant and cannot be abandoned because of how much has been spent on it, and the fact that it has parts and industry in over 130+ different political districts. It's too large and invasive to be stopped because 'JERBS! CANT TAKE AWAY OUR JERBS'

The Economy

America went to war with Germany and Japan for 4 years, and there was widespread rationing, cars stopped being made, and everything was geared towards the war effort. We've been at war over a decade against a decentralized opponent who lacks the ability to shoot down our planes, sink our warships, or disrupt our army and marine armor and infantry units. The cost isn't fuel rationing, or ration cards, it's a downgraded economy. People who aren't gainfully employed, or are only marginally employed are distracted by their own economic situation. They are dependent on hand outs from the government (the sheer number of people on SNAP is staggering, the number of people on Disability has skyrocketed) and they are easily distracted because of their situation. The closer the population is pushed towards poverty, the more receptive they are to outside influence. The man who has financial security in hand sets his own course, not the one plotted out for him.

Keeping borders open keeps the labor pool large, and employment as a percentage down, and labor costs down. The middle class is the enemy, and it always has been. The Have Some's really mess up the equation in terms of the Haves and the Have Nots, the rich and the poor.


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Re: Capitalism is the new Feudalism
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2015, 10:04:52 AM »
I guess I just really belive in the American Dream! As I read this I realize that I'm a HUGE optimist, yet I see the glass as half full, not half empty!
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Re: Capitalism is the new Feudalism
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2015, 10:16:12 AM »
I guess I just really belive in the American Dream! As I read this I realize that I'm a HUGE optimist, yet I see the glass as half full, not half empty!

The American Dream is dying.

Home ownership is down
Employment is down
Voter participation is down



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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2015, 10:52:47 AM »
I will agree it's pretty sick, but I think there is room for hope!
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« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2015, 11:42:41 AM »
I will agree it's pretty sick, but I think there is room for hope!

There is hope, have you seen who the new judge is on The Voice????


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Re: Capitalism is the new Feudalism
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2015, 11:50:07 AM »
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...and we are moving to the point where the public education system is the mold stamping machine that turns students into college applicants, for further indoctrination. Smart enough to pull the levers and push the buttons, but dumb enough to not ask questions.

Those folks are what I have met in the industry!!!

I am somewhat of a maverick, and you should have heard the incessant chanting of the mindless drones that were my colleagues. "Oh, AG, you shouldn't do that. Smile, be grateful for what you have, don't question anything, don't criticize him... Don't you know who he is?"

No one questions society. Hell, no one even know why society is like it is.

In Norway one of our Viking kings nationalized the use of force. They called it a force monopoly, and no one but the government had the right to raise armies (and police) or apply force. The rest of Europe got the same in the wake of the mercenary pillaging of the 30 year war. I guess our previous state, of continual warring between the Viking clans, was not optimal, but right now people obey the law without even questioning why the law exists in the first place. They don't know that it was emperor Justinian of Rome (Byzants) that created the first laws, nor do they care. They have been indoctrinated to do this or that, and they NEVER question the way of things. To do so mark you as an outsider, even a criminal.

In many ways that makes us like German Shepherds with diplomas; well trained, smart enough to pull sticks and levers (like Scras said), but little more.

In a healthy society everyone should be taught everything. How it came to be that we got a force monopoly (in Norway). How it came to be that the laws were created, starting with King Magnus the Maker of Fines (Lagabøte).

When you need lawyers to interpret arcane laws, you have made it inaccessible to populace - A monopoly on what is right and wrong.

When you take away peoples' right to arm themselves, you have made them into toothless sheep - They are unable to defend themselves.

When you force them to get a mortgage in order to eke out a living, you have forced them into servitude - They are now your slaves.

When you give them the distractions that keeps them content, you keep them in a state of inaction - 99% of them will not fight to change anything.

...and the 1% that do fight... MLK, Gandhi, Rosa Parks, John Lennon... They are made examples of, and even if they succeed, like Gandhi did, the change they bring is ephemeral.

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Aramax: I believe the American Dream might still have a grain of a fragment of a chance to affect people's lives. But have you ever asked yourself how hard it is for someone unprivileged to rise, as compared to the son of a CEO?

Are not the 0.000001% who make it, made into circus animals, lifted into public view as a shiny example of how you could potentially make it one day too. In effect they become part of the bread and circus of ancient rome, while the old, moneyed families stay out of view - living within walled compounds, enjoying a quality of life we can only dream of... unless we are ridiculously good looking girls, willing to spread our legs for a few years of material bliss.

And perhaps therein rests the remains of the chance of achieving the American dream...
Between the thighs of good looking girls.
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Re: Capitalism is the new Feudalism
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2015, 12:06:38 PM »
I'm the first person to agree that things are far from perfect and yes the truely wealthy are in a class of their own, But there is enough freedom for everyone in most western democracies to truely better themselves, look at the last two Democrats who served in the White House, they both came from VERY humble roots. I belive Prime Minister Nicalos Sarkozy of France was only a first generation Frenchman. Change is needed but it must be very very carefully implemented
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Re: Capitalism is the new Feudalism
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2015, 12:15:32 PM »
Barack Obama's mother had a PhD, and his father served in the Kenyan Government. That is not very humble. That is upper middle class, with the ability to educate your kids whatever way you choose.

He may be the President of the United States, but he is hardly filthy rich and he is hardly calling the shots. Have you seent he way the light in his eyes have extinguished? Do you think that is because he is fine and dandy with he way his vision of change is working out?

No: The only difference between feudalism and capitalism, is that in a capitalist democracy, the head of state is not the head of state. Big money is. The President is just a figurehead.
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Re: Capitalism is the new Feudalism
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2015, 12:35:55 PM »
The government is owned by the well funded special interests, and they are selling us the illusion of success.


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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2015, 12:40:58 PM »
Why, yes.
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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2015, 01:48:01 PM »
All I can say is this:
It's a lot easier to go through life looking at the bright side!
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Re: Capitalism is the new Feudalism
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2015, 04:15:25 PM »
Certainly.

Though I believe it is possible to both be happy, and acknowledge flaws in society at the same time.

My life is good. But I realize that I am privileged. I am like a feudal great farmer, free of vassalage to greater lords.

Most other people are indentured servants, bound by debt to toil and sweat.
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