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Movie Industry - Which kind of fantasy/sci-fi should be up next?
« on: February 19, 2015, 04:20:15 AM »
Hollywood has changed, and anything that becomes popular spawns years of movie clones, to assure box office success.

Take vampires: After Bram Stoker's Dracula and Interview with the Vampire in the mid 90's, followed 20 years of vampire flicks and series. Blade, Underworld, Twilight, Vampire Diaries, etc.

Underworld spawned a werewolf plague too, though not as intense as the vampire one.

Lord of the Ring generated a surge in fantasy movies, and science fiction has been big since forever.

Another general trend is supers movies, where the Marvel Universe even manage to pull off talking racoons and trees, creating new box office successes every 6 months.


But... It gets boring. Hollywood needs fresh blood.

What kind of geekdom plot / storyline / genre do you think Hollywood should focus on next?
Which genre or setting of our amazing hobby (roleplaying) do you believe could become the next, big it thing?

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Re: Movie Industry - Which kind of fantasy/sci-fi should be up next?
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2015, 04:30:53 AM »
My 2 cents would be towards the post apocalyptical movies.

We've already had a few of those, but they sucked big time. Because they were made by people who create the same old, god awful tristesse, bleak no hope for humanity, we really screwed up this time, post apocalyptical movies.

Don't give me any "The Road", or World War Z crap, or After Earth (screams), or anything with Will Smith in it. (not because of Will himself, but because of the movies he's played in).

Give me post-apocalyptical, starting in @!#$ed up earth, but with surviving lunar and orbital colonies, but no one knows what happened to those places anymore. Perhaps even Mars and Europa (moon) colonies.

Give me aliens in there, rummaging the wastelands in search for loot.
And mutants. Made by the old civilization.

Give me cybernetic life forms, undead (through tech) and living.

Give me ruined cityscapes where fights are fought between raiding tribes and struggling settlements, between bandits and zealot group of flagellant madmen.

In short... I want to see Bleakwood as a TV series :p

Though, I have to admit: Mad Max 1 and 2 was really, really good. Spot on. More like those, please.
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Re: Movie Industry - Which kind of fantasy/sci-fi should be up next?
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2015, 10:09:57 AM »
For your post-apoc, alien invasion, might I suggest Defiance?

To answer your first question, I wouldn't mind some good ol' Weird West (Deadlands style) or even some classic sci-fi (Firefly-esque, at the very least).

Monte Cook is working on a short film as part of the Numenera kickstarter, which is so far future sci-fi that all the technological relics may as well be magic from a fantasy setting.
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Re: Movie Industry - Which kind of fantasy/sci-fi should be up next?
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2015, 08:53:14 AM »
I'm just waiting for a smartphone game to be made into a movie. They did it with Battleship, let's see how long it takes before we see Farmville: the Movie, Candy Crush Saga: The Crushing of the Candies, and whatever game it is that has Kate and the Uptons bouncing around on a horse.


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Re: Movie Industry - Which kind of fantasy/sci-fi should be up next?
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2015, 10:09:45 AM »
An attempt at humor, I surmise?

This thread was created in the hopes of serious discussion. :)
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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2015, 12:43:45 PM »
Sadly, I think he is dead serious. Apart from the Uptons. Thats gold there.
   
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Re: Movie Industry - Which kind of fantasy/sci-fi should be up next?
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2015, 01:42:34 PM »
What?

Angry Birds - The College Years?

Flappy Bird - The Fight for Hurdle 100?

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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2015, 06:38:11 PM »
Totally serious, sadly.

I think we are going to see these insipid time wasting games continue to grow. I was blown away when Final Fantasy 7 had a television commercial. Game of War and Clash of Clans run regular tv spots and both ran ads during the superbowl, the most expensive time slot on American television.

They don't cost much to develop, but they earn millions a day by selling lives, tips, and power ups. It's the Future, man.


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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2015, 12:22:31 PM »
SHADOWRUN!!! Fantasy + Matrix = Win.

GAMMA WORLD!!!!

Besides that, lets scruntch up all our favorites into a massive free for all hour of awesome.

Give me some REAL fantasy mutants mixing ideas from Shadowrun and Gamma World. Not these happy shiny super power humans. Give me extra arms, deformed bodies, melted torsos that adapted tentacles.

All the cool powers of super heroes and all the gore of zombies, magic for fun and cool ass weapons...mechs!?!?! What could go wrong?

Right now, way superhero overload. Even the Alphas (which I watched when I saw AG binging it) is basically the X-Men minus the wheel chair. The autistic dude is frick'n awesome though. I only watch it for him now. But enough super, I agree!


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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2015, 12:27:16 PM »
For gaming, check out The Mutant Epoch for a slightly newer take on Gamma World mutants with lots of awesome artwork. Also agree that that kind of thing would be teh awesome to watch.

For Alphas, I only watched a few episodes, couldn't quite get into it. Almost kept going for the autistic guy, but the rest of the writing and acting was too horrible to make it.
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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2015, 06:43:12 PM »
I want a Rated R superhero movie.

Wolverine, Deadpool, Batman, and all the other up close and dirty fighting superheroes and supervillains get ripped off by PG-13 and PG. It's okay for people to be killed so long as there is no nudity, and no gore, it's pre-teen safe mayhem.

But it lacks the actual impact of actions of having consequences and repercussions.



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« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2015, 09:02:30 AM »
I want a Rated R superhero movie.

Wolverine, Deadpool, Batman, and all the other up close and dirty fighting superheroes and supervillains get ripped off by PG-13 and PG. It's okay for people to be killed so long as there is no nudity, and no gore, it's pre-teen safe mayhem.

But it lacks the actual impact of actions of having consequences and repercussions.
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« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2015, 09:07:30 AM »
The other possibility is that the success of 50 Shades of Gray (weekend opening of $247 million, on a $40 million dollar movie) is going to open the door for more softcore mainstream pornographic movies. The level of nudity and whatnot is not likely to rise, we are still a rather violence loving but prudish nation, but we could see more movies where the central focus is sexual in nature, rather than sex being a topping on the pizza.


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« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2015, 10:19:04 AM »
I want a Rated R superhero movie.

Wolverine, Deadpool, Batman, and all the other up close and dirty fighting superheroes and supervillains get ripped off by PG-13 and PG. It's okay for people to be killed so long as there is no nudity, and no gore, it's pre-teen safe mayhem.

But it lacks the actual impact of actions of having consequences and repercussions.

I think this is a good part of why I generally can't get into Supers shows and movies. I love Arrow because it feels like it's more about the story and the characters and less about super-powered people demolishing a city while they duke it out (without showing any "collateral damage"). It's definitely meant to be more gritty. But Flash? Just couldn't identify with the overpowered characters and the too-clean structure. It cracked me up in Jupiter Ascending how they wrote off city-wide destruction by hand-waving with super technology in a way that actually fit with the story. I have a suspicion the Wachowskis were making a statement and having a laugh at the same time.
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« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2015, 11:29:36 AM »
I have been spending some time being annoyed with powers as the scope, plot and focus of the film for a long time.
Sure you have a plot, but it is usually like this: Good natured powers people fight bad natured powers people that want to destroy X using their badass powers.
Whether the power is witchcraft, werewolfery, vampirism, Thor's Hammer, Bruce Banner Hulkish Gamma rays, Ultron, or whatever, the entire plot revolves around the power.
The result, for a series of movies or tv series, is that they have to introduce new powers all the while, to keep it "interesting".
In supers movies it is a new villain with new powers, in vampire movies they introduce werewolves and witches, or super tech humans, and so on.

I love super powers, whatever they may be - Gandalf wizardry, elven longevity and 1337 skills, superman laser eyes or the thing clobbing - but their powers should be a cool side effect, not the premise of the movie.

Give me a cool series with an actual plot, with feelings and savagery and George R. R. Martin intrigue and mortality rate.

I want an intelligent plot with powered people that fail, instead of always succeeding just to fight a menagerie of powered thugs to be bested.
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« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2015, 01:55:50 PM »
I have been spending some time being annoyed with powers as the scope, plot and focus of the film for a long time.
Sure you have a plot, but it is usually like this: Good natured powers people fight bad natured powers people that want to destroy X using their badass powers.
Whether the power is witchcraft, werewolfery, vampirism, Thor's Hammer, Bruce Banner Hulkish Gamma rays, Ultron, or whatever, the entire plot revolves around the power.
The result, for a series of movies or tv series, is that they have to introduce new powers all the while, to keep it "interesting".
In supers movies it is a new villain with new powers, in vampire movies they introduce werewolves and witches, or super tech humans, and so on.

I love super powers, whatever they may be - Gandalf wizardry, elven longevity and 1337 skills, superman laser eyes or the thing clobbing - but their powers should be a cool side effect, not the premise of the movie.

Give me a cool series with an actual plot, with feelings and savagery and George R. R. Martin intrigue and mortality rate.

I want an intelligent plot with powered people that fail, instead of always succeeding just to fight a menagerie of powered thugs to be bested.

There is an axiom that dictates that as a superhero expands through their arc, the effectiveness of their enemies decreases, so that the third installment requires 3 or more distinct villains to match the villainy of the sole villain in the first installment. By the end of a series, it's the sole hero stacked against an army of enemies each no more effective than the mooks and minions the first time around.


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« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2015, 02:02:48 PM »
One of the things that has impressed me about the Teenwolf series is that they avoid the power creep by making information gathering and working together as the key to the heroes winning. Each season their adversaries are more different than more powerful. (as a generalization, of course... Having a pack of alphas made me nervous that they were going a different direction)
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« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2015, 05:36:38 AM »
Imagine this for instance, what I consider a cooler premise for a low powered superish tv series:

A TV-series focusing on Aneksi, a woman born in a village that would 2600 years later be known as Alexandria, under the rule of Pharao Hor-Den of the First Dynasty. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Den_(pharaoh) )

Aneksi was cursed by a priestess and she would never die, never find peace. At the end of each lifetime, she is reincarnated - or rather, her soul possess a new body of someone just turned 20.

She has lived myriad lives, among others:
- Her first life as a prostitute in a hut by the Nile, which ended with her being lynched by an enraged mob
- Her life as the concubine of Tuth-ank-Amon, which ended when he died
- Her life as a huntress by Lake Victoria, which ended with the raid of another tribe
- Her life as a shaman, and mother of twelve in Congo
- Her life as a librarian in the Great Library of Alexandria, which ended with her as a slave in the fields of ancient Greece
- Her life in Carthage during the Punic Wars
- Her life as a student on the island of Lesbos
- Her life as Theodora, the wife of Justinian
- Her two lives as a female Shaolin Monk
- Her life as a marketplace vendor in ancient Shanghai, which ended when a thief killed her as she carted her merchandise home
- Her life as a Princess in Arabia
- Her life on the Silk Road as a spice merchant
- Her life in Paris under Pippin the Younger and Charlemagne, which ended as she fought the Musselman invaders
- Her life in Rome and Florence during the reign of Innocent VIII, where she also met the Borgia Pope, Alexander VI. Her life ended during the reign of Paul III.
- Her life in Portugal as a fisherwoman
- Her life London, during the Industrial Revolution
- Her life as an opium addict in China during the 1800's
- Her life in Berlin, where she spent her entire life in an insane asylum as she tried to tell a friend of her eternal life.
- Her life on the frostbitten Finnish Front, during the second world war - where she died violently as she was raped by Russian troops.
- Her life as a drug addict street prostitute in Los Angeles during the seventies and early eighties
- Her current life as computer expert and high level executive of a corporation based on Manhattan

She is almost 5000 years old, but early in this lifecycle she began having vivid dreams of a means of breaking her curse. Her mother has begun invading her dreams, speaking ancient egyptian, telling her of the artifacts of the visitors - one of which the ancient priestess used to curse her.

Her latter lives have all been marked with despair, with resignation and drug abuse, and she has been spiraling downwards for two centuries. But these dreams have filled her with hope, and she has begun researching what these artifacts are, and how they can be used to help her escape eternity.

Her power is her reincarnation, other than that she is human, though she has the memories of hundreds of lives. She knows how to barter, how to fish, how to sew, how to satisfy men, kung-fu, meditation, massage, even hacking. She is the femme fatale MacGyver. But she is still human, and she has experienced death hundreds of times. She also knows the dark lure of drugs, which are her main weakness.

The series would introduce elements of mysticism and hint of alien visitors (though not go full X-files on the viewer). More like the search of remnants left behind, and in particular of the rod of the Priestess who cursed her.

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Her powers would be a cool side-effect, but also the very thing she is trying to rid herself off. The series would revolve around the protagonist, how she copes with the world and give flashbacks to her previous lives, and also feature some Indiana Jonesish expeditions around the world.

Season 1 would end with her death, and thus the lead actress would change at random intervals (and their salary demands not get too high :p )

IMO better than clob, kill, beam, gargh.


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- When she discuss history with an academic, and he arrogantly and in a ridiculing manner, dismiss her claims while citing this or that professor and book.
- When her hands  begin trembling, and she needs to hold on to something, as she is in a location she has been before, in which she died or experienced something terrifying (for instance a medieval siege or the murder of her children)
- When she discovers that the cursing priestess is also alive, and has been reincarnating in the same manner as her... But she knows where the rod, and source of their eternity is
- When she remembers waking up for the first time in a new body, and has to learn where she is, and who she is this time.
- When she encounters relatives from her previous life, or even a descendant of some life a long, long time ago (aristocracy is easy to track).
- When she astounds someone by knowing of secrets within their home. Secrets not even they knew - like old family ledgers or hidden passageways or graves or whatnot
- When she herself is surprised by assassins sent by her nemesis to stop her from retrieving the rod, and she dies.
- When she encounters the exact doppleganger of someone she knew a thousand years ago, and he even talks and acts in the same manner.
- When she displays elite martial arts skills and surprises everyone who thought she was just a pretty geek girl
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