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Roackese
« on: May 23, 2007, 04:10:47 AM »
Desperate times call for desperate measures. More and more, my internet access is restricted to the PSP's web browser, making it almost impossible to post a sentence without taking a minute or two to write it. Thusly, my visits have been few and far between.
The solution? Roackese!
Now, I neither demand nor expect adoption of a new typing system/possible conlang, but I think the project will be entertaining. Besides, the intent is really more directed toward my being able to type quickly, than be able to come in and edit a Roackese post into english.

That aside, some of you may be asking why this is in the Cavern of Inane Natter, as opposed to something that might be a little more geared towards construction. I submit the following points:

1. It's 2:00 AM. I'm tired.
2. I'm lazy
3. Eventually, I'm hoping to get a little nonsensical Roackese conversation going.
4. This:
I often find people referring to themselves in first person, as intended. I myself, along with others, occasionally lapse into third person for little to no apparent reason. Why, then, do you rarely hear anyone use second person in referring to themselves, other than the sheer impracticality of it?
5. I lied, there is no five, I just think ending a list of points on a four isn't aesthetically pleasing.

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Re: Roackese
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2007, 04:48:27 AM »
Addressing the first order of business: Digraphs!

Why waste space typing two letters for the sound of one? Isn't that like some kind of anti-ligature?

For those of you who are unaware, Digraphs are what happens when two letters are placed next to eachother, and through the magic of english, combine to make one sound. In otherwords, Ch, Kh, Sh, Th, Zh, Ph, Ng, Ts, Dz.

Ph is already addressed by the letter F, so I'm going to go ahead and ignore it. Kh, Ts, and Dz are pretty well addressed by K, S, and J respectively, so despite the fact that there are more or less significant differences, I'm going to go ahead and ignore them too, especially because of their lack of use in english. As for Zh, I don't even know what the hell kinda sound that makes, I just know it's used somewhere, so I'll ignore it too!

That leaves Ch, Sh, Th, and Ng.

So, what non-vowel uncommon graphemes can the PSP, the cause of all this nonsense display? Ç, Ñ, and the German ligature, ß. Hmm, four sounds, three characters. Well, Ng is pretty different from the other three, so let's first assign Ñ that duty. Unfortunately, I don't feel I can seperate the three out, both because of their similarity and because I want to keep something availiable for when I do non-digraphical consonants. As much as I love the ß, let's go with Ç, seeing as how it actually has a lowercase.

Examples:

This - Çis
Chew - Çew
Sheep - Çeep
Bach - Bak (this makes what I would call a kh-ish sound, though it is not kh)
Chewing - Çewiñ
Photon - Foton

Well, that's about it for Digraphs, join me next random period of time for whatever it is I'll be doing then.

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Re: Roackese
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2007, 03:47:54 PM »
I think you've lost it this time Roark....Welcome to the club! :up:
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Re: Roackese
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2007, 09:44:28 PM »
I lost it a long time ago, and it ain't comin' back!

Now, to Roackese consonants!
I did this early in math today, (at the ungodly hour of 7:00AM,) so I'm not going to bother posting explanations.

Character                              Sound(s)
B                                         Boy
D                                         Dog
F                                         Fat,  Phonograph
G                                         Gamer
H                                         Hate
J                                          Jump
K                                          Car, Kill, Sick
L                                          Loop
M                                         Mother
N                                          No
P                                          Peuce
Q                                         Question
R                                          Roackese
S                                         Slurpee, Psyche, General Tso's Chicken
T                                         Top
V                                         Vinyl
W                                        World, Who
X                                         Sex, Attacks
Y                                         Yellow
Z                                         Xylophone, Zebra
Ç                                         Chat, Mash, Think
Ñ                                         Finishing this post with a flawless segueway from the chart, see you next time with a possible digraph (and thusly consonant) update, or vowels, maybe.

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Re: Roackese
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2007, 11:12:12 PM »
Oh yeah, I just saw it on the ground a little bit ago.

I would post something on here that has to do with the subject but quite frankly I don't even know what the subject is, or even if their is one. So until then after every session I will post random gibberish. :up:
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Re: Roackese
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2007, 11:20:10 PM »
I'll hold you to that

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Re: Roackese
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2007, 12:07:26 PM »
I'll hold myself...weenie!
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Re: Roackese
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2007, 12:19:24 AM »
Digraph update, GO!

Looking elswhere on the PSP's somewhat limited character pad, thing, we find more symbols!
Now:
Ch is € in uppercase, (yes, I'm aware that's derived from an e instead of a C,) and ¢ lowercase.
Sh is Ç and therefore also ç
Th is ¥, with no lowercase.
Ng remains Ñ and ñ
Therefore, Chewing = €ewiñ

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Re: Roackese
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2007, 11:39:54 PM »
Vowels, they too exist.

Again, laziness prevents me from actually posting reasons, but here it goes!
Roackese was a relatively simple, phonetic vowel system.
HOWEVER!
Each Vowel comes in two flavors: Mint, and Strawberry... Actually Normal and Diacritical.
Diacritical vowels are used to show seperation in pronounciation from other vowels.

Normal      Diacritical          Pronouciation
Àà            Åå                    Sat
Áá            Ää                    Say
Èè            Êê                    Set
Éé            Ëë                    Seat
Ìì              Îî                     Sit
Íí              Ïï                     I   (Gasp, there's no S there!)
Òò            Ôô                   Sod
Óó            Õõ                   Soak
Øø            Œœ                 Suit
Ùù            Ûû                   Sought
Úú            Üü                   Suit


Also, though not a vowel, a new digraph!
for Ir, Er, Ar, Or, and even Ur, I present: Ÿÿ

Let's try some words:

Íÿn - Iron ("Wait, what?" say the confused onlookers. And Roack replies "I really only hear Iron pronouced (i-URN)
Møt - Moot

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Re: Roackese
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2007, 02:35:42 PM »
Huzzabwaha? You are either quite mad or a genius... or a mad genius... or a mad druid. I'm not sure which yet. However, I am amazed. Reading this is like learning a new language. And I dont want to do it. So, I'm just gonna say: "Whoa." and continue on my merry little way. G'luck with all of this, I look forward to seeing it around the citadel.
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Re: Roackese
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2007, 11:50:13 PM »
Thank you, sir, I'm glad to know my madness is recognized!

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Re: Roackese
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2007, 03:52:52 AM »
Have no fear about it being recognized!

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Re: Roackese
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2007, 10:43:26 PM »
Huzzah!
Also, vowels. I just realized how incredibly broken my system was. Completion comes soon!

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Re: Roackese
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2007, 11:55:55 AM »
Hey, I'm actually understanding it. Start using it and finish it up. Make life interesting around the citadel.
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Re: Roackese
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2007, 06:28:56 PM »
It'll come, as soon as I find time

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Re: Roackese
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2007, 06:11:19 AM »
Your words are terrific....
I showed it to my teacher and she said it was rather confusing.
She can understand from the start until the use of word "vowel".

I congratulate you for making my teacher confused~
(Czuse I have tried to confuse her at a times... but I always "phail")
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Re: Roackese
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2007, 07:22:43 PM »
I thank you for your words, Rei! She probably can't understand the vowels because I barely did myself, at the time.

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Re: Roackese
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2007, 10:55:12 PM »
VOWELS: A NEW BEGINNING

It is the early 21st century, and a lone boy stands armed only with an inferior vowel system against his desire to post. But wait! Over the horizon, rising with the sun, comes...

The updated Roackese Vowel system:

               Front            Central         Back
High            ie                                  u
                             i               oe
Closed             ae                            o

Open                   e                    å
                              a
Low                                       ue


Sweet! (or as I should say, "Swiet!")
If you have no Idea what any of that means, check this out: http://www.zompist.com/kitlong.html#vowels

I reserve the right (as though I have to) to change these vowels via diacritics to indicate length, roundedness or nasalization.

Now let's try some words:

Iron (Again, i-URN, but "i" is broken into ah-ee) - Åiern.
Dough - Do (hooray efficiency)
Do - Du
Shell - Çel
Roack - Roak

Thank you for choosing Roack Cinema, please dispose of your waste in the proper receptacles so we can continue to avoid employing ushers.
« Last Edit: August 13, 2007, 07:51:36 PM by Roack »

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Re: Roackese
« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2007, 08:04:53 PM »
Grammatical restructuring: Superlatives

Many of you may have, unfortunately, heard the words "more better." This is exactly the thing that leads to eyes/ears bleeding, if not the speaker/writer. In order to correct this, it is reduced the simply the latter, which unfortunately results in the word "gooder" and "goodest" (another cause of hemorrhaging,) but this system is more efficient, sticking closer to the heart of Roackese.

Let's test it out:
Roackese is more efficient than English - Roackese is efficienter than English - Roakiez iz iefiçienter ¥en Ieñgliç.
Roackese is the most efficient! - Roackese is the efficientest! - Roakiez iz ¥ie iefiçientest!

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RE: Roackese
« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2007, 08:21:12 PM »
is this really better?
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Re: Roackese
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2007, 11:05:51 PM »
No. Not anymore.
Now it's more: "Why not?"

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Re: Roackese
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2007, 04:48:11 PM »
Have fun.  I know I am
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Re: Roackese
« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2007, 12:13:36 AM »
Will do! Though I appear to be on some sort of hiatus with Roackese (and most everything else.)