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Dozus's comment on 2014-03-11 04:10 PM
This is good starter advice. The content suggestions aren't bad, though as you say it's hard to set iron-clad rules for content. A first-time poster would do well to follow this advice.

I'm almost taking the "Self-named Characters" issue as a challenge, since Dozus was one of my first fantasy RP character, but on further review I remember he's a Drizzt clone and better left unspoken of. Go to Comment
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Murometz's comment on 2014-03-13 11:50 AM
Good, solid points across the board. These tips can only be helpful to first-time posters, even if a few can be debated. Go to Comment
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Murometz's comment on 2014-03-18 11:04 AM
I smell a potential "comment of the year" here, Ls. :) Go to Comment
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axlerowes's comment on 2014-03-11 03:47 PM
"not that harmful, they cause a sub to drag on, and can seem condescending"

Welcome to the dark side buddy! Go to Comment
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axlerowes's comment on 2014-04-11 12:49 PM

These are fantastic conclusions about "playing the game" of the Citadel and heading bad ideas off at the pass. Great stuff


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axlerowes's comment on 2016-01-29 04:07 PM
Okay I am convinced, excellent counter point and the encouraging intro is an excellent sentiment. Go to Comment
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valadaar's comment on 2014-03-11 01:25 PM


It must be said that this has been in my work folder for a very, very long time and is not in response to any recent submissions.



Also, Moonhunter has a wide range of excellent advice columns you can peruse, especially if you are seeking the Golden Standard.



These are also my own Opinions, not hard and fast rules, and come from my observations looking at thousands of submissions.

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valadaar's comment on 2014-03-13 12:03 PM
Update: Fixed some formatting in the section on ....formatting. Go to Comment
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valadaar's comment on 2014-03-18 09:06 AM
Incorporated Longspeak's addition into the main text - thanks Longspeak!

If anyone else wants to sound off on things to avoid on your first sub, feel free to add em! Go to Comment
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valadaar's comment on 2016-01-28 03:26 PM
As mentioned at the start of the submission, these are quips and comments. If you consider those to be Conclusions, you are going to be disappointed.

If my summary was "Rules for 1st time posters" or something like that, you would be correct in your assessment.

And, I'm happy to debate any of these points :)



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Kassy's comment on 2014-04-11 12:26 PM
4.0/5

Brilliant advice, and not just for starters.

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Longspeak's comment on 2014-03-12 01:13 PM
"I'm almost taking the "Self-named Characters" issue as a challenge..."

That's exactly what ran through my head. I've never considered a self-named character before, and now I wanna try making one. :P Go to Comment
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Longspeak's comment on 2014-03-12 01:26 PM
A suggestion to put before all others, in my admittedly not very humble opinion:

Just Do It!!!!
For some people, making that first submission can be daunting. Having people looking over and judging your work can cause anxiety, which might keep you from posting it.

Just Do It! Ignore the voice that says no, and share your ideas. Don't be afraid of honest criticism. Follow all the other advice to make it the best you can, but remember the old saying "Perfect is the enemy of Good." Do your best and then GET THAT SUB OUT THERE! Go to Comment
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Longspeak's comment on 2014-03-12 01:26 PM
Good thoughts. I've added one of my own. Go to Comment
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Longspeak's comment on 2014-04-11 12:57 PM
Only voted Go to Comment
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Longspeak's comment on 2016-01-29 01:42 AM

Edit to add: My strong disagreement below was with Axle's ORIGINAL comment, not the... altered version.

I strongly disagree with Axle's opinion. Pretty much every word of it. Except the bit at the end, which I could not parse well enough to agree or disagree with. I thought so at the time, and instead of responding, I just added my vote.

Your advice, which I took to be aimed at inexperienced writers, is all great advice about things new writers should avoid, or at best tread very lightly around. Of course it's *possible* to make an interesting piece using one or more of those cliches, but it's much more difficult.

I voted this a 5/5 at the time, and I stand by that. It's great, useful advice for an inexperienced writer considering his first work. And anyone who says otherwise probably has a sub in-work about an orphan character named after himself with mysterious, unexplained abilities and a cool "not magic" weapon that devours souls. :P

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Stork's comment on 2014-03-11 08:18 PM
This is another that should almost be required reading. These are simple things to do and Valadaar gives excellent reasons behind each one.

Well done! Go to Comment
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Cherry's comment on 2016-06-13 05:29 PM
Why does that strike me as hilarious, when you put it that way.

While I never had the chance to read the original text, before you changed it.

Of course, the format is particularly important when you are making a point on it. Go to Comment
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Cherry's comment on 2016-06-13 11:35 PM
Using cliché is a chalenge, but probbaly left to the more experienced and knowledged wrighters.

I also enjoy when you stand by your original asseement. Go to Comment
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Cherry's comment on 2016-06-13 11:36 PM
I have to agree, this is good advice. Go to Comment
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