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EchoMirage's comment on 2010-11-22 02:56 AM


I love the idea, and its twisted simplicity.



I will let you expand and refine the sub before voting.



Thumbs up.


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Cheka Man's comment on 2010-11-18 10:35 PM


A pretty disgusting place to end up in. 5/5


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Murometz's comment on 2012-11-13 07:50 PM
I voted and commented on this sub before, and yet...it shows that I didn't. I also used this in a one-shot game one time with my PCs, and they loved(!) the novelty of it. This concept rocks. Go to Comment
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Murometz's comment on 2012-11-14 10:54 AM
And the scavangers will come.... Go to Comment
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valadaar's comment on 2010-11-18 01:49 PM
Update: Submitting, though I am not completely happy with it. I have my reasons though - it will be built off of soon. Go to Comment
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valadaar's comment on 2010-11-17 06:34 PM
Update: Gah, not quite happy with this one. Go to Comment
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valadaar's comment on 2010-11-18 03:51 PM
Well, if you have comments that would help bring it out of the unfinished state, I'm all ears. My only thought right now would nearly redo the entire thing.
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valadaar's comment on 2010-11-18 05:58 PM
Well, there is a start in the Bone City - I like your idea :)
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valadaar's comment on 2010-11-18 06:20 PM
There are a couple of answers - one, consider the Inuit of north america - while there is some plant food available, their traditional near all-meat diet is survivable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit_diet

Mold and fungi are also present and could supplement some of the vitamins.

Second,this realm is not a natural one by any stretch. Humans will get rickets and similar diseases if they stay here too long, if the GM chooses to enforce real-world dietary requirements. Native species are able to live without the vitamins provided by plants, perhaps able to create them themselves.



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valadaar's comment on 2010-11-20 05:58 PM
1. The Render is of animal intelligence, the Boneslug would lose a battle of wits with a cockroach.

2. The corpses are all semi-reptilian, though seemingly all unique. Usually they are too badly mashed on landing to make much determination.

3. Depends on how you wish to use this place. Those well prepared are unlikely to come here without a good reason, those unprepared will probably need help to leave.

4. The landmarks that persist from normal corpsefalls are the bones, which the boneslugs will eventually grind away. The persistent ones usually only persist due to starting with an immense mass, and then by resident scavengers protecting their kill against others. Once the full sized bone-slugs reach a corpse, few other scavengers will attempt access.

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valadaar's comment on 2010-11-22 07:12 AM
Good catch. Since there definitely is no sun as we would consider it, I will need to amend that. Go to Comment
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valadaar's comment on 2011-03-18 10:38 AM
Thanks! - this is firmly a fantasy - perhaps even mythic local - reality is not supposed to really play a part here, apart from some of the rationalization of life here.

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valadaar's comment on 2012-11-14 02:36 PM
I'd say mystical scale titanic.

Of course, this assumes normal physics are in play. Since real bone could not support skeletons measured in miles (not to mention any cardiovascular systems) you can safely assume either alternate physics, or no enforced 'laws' here as well.

The creatures likely can fly, so their terminal velocity will not be any where near that of stone/meteors and the like, so the impact would not be of thermonuclear proportions...

But, close:



1. Mass?


going to go with Giants since there is a calculator for human mass. Assume 12 km (8 miles converted)

using:

http://www.calculator.net/ideal-weight-calculator.html?ctype=standard&cage=25&csex=m&cheightfeet=40000&cheightinch=10&cheightmeter=180&x=0&y=0#


Based on the healthy BMI recommendation, your recommended weight is 3031040000.0 kgs - 4096000000.0 kgs

So mass is 4096000000 kg.

Surface area?

Theres a calculator:

http://www.globalrph.com/bsa2.cgi

Which allows silly values :)

Yielding different numbers of course, I'm selecting DuBois and DuBois

2340704 square meters.

Terminal velocity? Yet another calculator:

http://www.calctool.org/CALC/eng/aerospace/terminal

I'm using Drag Coefficent of 1 (cyclist or skier).

So, terminal velocity is 151.264 m/s or 543 km/hour.

How much energy at this speed?

(151^2 * 4096000000 ) /2 ( KE=1/2(m x v squared))

Given 1 Ton of TNT = ~4 Gjoules.

I get about 12 KT, that of a tactical nuke, which I think would be about right :)


This assumes I didn't make any major math errors.
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valadaar's comment on 2012-11-26 07:47 AM
I like this - I actually had some thoughts on addressing the single-terrain nature of the world by having different regions due to a gradually sloping topography- far south would be a disgusting 'sea' of the available moisture, with wetlands, swamps and fungi jungles moving northward until the rising terrain and perpetual heat converted it into the uncompromising desert. Go to Comment
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Ouroboros's comment on 2010-11-18 02:29 PM


It as a certain unfinished feel to it, this sub.. But interesting, and original. Reminds me of "The Hell of Dry Bones". I have a great love of hells and pocket realms...



So, since you will be adding to this sub, I´ll recast my vote when it is finished.



/David


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Ouroboros's comment on 2010-11-18 05:09 PM
You know what this setting needs?

A train. A skull-bedecked demonic locomotive, pulling boxcarts full of bone and rotting flesh... Crewed by scaly-skinned demons and belching a great plume of greasy smoke and cinders as it trundles across the desert...

Or if not an engine, make it a train of rail-carts, pulled by a team of demonic beings (or a large chained work-crew of the damned, whipped along by demon foremen?)...

Never stopping, forever collecting corpses... Some carts may hold rendering boilers for boiling corpse-blubber into tallow, curing vats for hides and so on..

Or, I dont know, maybe I just wasn´t raised right :)

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slartibartfast's comment on 2010-11-21 08:55 PM


Ooh; this is good.  What a hellhole!  At first I thought "falling corpses? Nah!", but this is truly a desolate place.  I thought it was fine as it is.


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Redgre's comment on 2010-11-19 06:19 AM


I love hell dimensions.  I really like your post.  I understand, at least part of the reason, you feel this submission is unfinished.  The ideas are basically all there although you left many details open for adjustments based on campaign needs.  Let me just ask you several of the questions I had when I finished reading the post.



1. Obviously the Griz are intelligent humanoid life, but I'm unclear about the Render and the Boneslug.  Are they intelligent enough to speak? have their own society?  What did you have in mind for interracial relations (generally speaking of course)?



2. Are the falling corpses all the same kind of creature or are they radically different?



3. You spoke of a way out.  Can your average dimension hopper leave using their ability or is there something keeping them here?  Did you have a specific way out in mind?



4. What keeps a land mark of flesh around in a world of possibly starving scavengers?



Anyway that's enough for now.  I have many ideas I'd be happy to share.  Let me give it some thought and perhaps hear your answers to these questions and write something down for you.  Again great ideas, nasty hell hole, and keep it coming.


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Redgre's comment on 2010-11-22 12:44 PM


Different kinds of corpses:



Every hundred years (or some distant time), a unique corpse falls.  It is unique in the fact that it:



1. Mutates the eaters.  This mutation could make colossal sized boneslugs or perhaps a form of lycanthropy in the Griz or Renders.



2. It has inedible, close to indestructible bones.  One of these corpses produced the skull that makes up 'The Skull of the Leviathan'.  This corpses' bones are the finest material to produce weapons, armor, or other structures.



3. Not quite a corpse.  Where almost everything that falls is dead, this one is alive,  Perhaps it's critically injured from the fall, the titanic beast gets up and is capable of action for a time. The climate and lack of food will undoubtedly kill it within the space of a few days if the scavengers don't kill it first.



A way out:



1. Veshpether is actually hollow.  At the very peak, there is an opening, which one can climb into and drop through the whole plane of Corpsefall and land in another hell dimension which lies below.  Without the ability of flight, this is an extremely risky venture.



2.  Elder Boneslug.  Hidden in a strange part of the land (perhaps the Shunned Lands) is a gigantic boneslug.  This boneslug has unusual markings and seems to be immobile.  Visitors will find that it can move and is exceptionally hungry.  The boneslug bowel is a dimensional door that will send the person the boneslug eats into a world between worlds type of location.  Slaying the Elder Boneslug will destroy the portal and all hope of escape.



3. Semi-frequent dimensional visitors:  A certain greater demon has taken a liking to this location and uses Corpsefall to punish his minions in their failures.  A desperate and charismatic person may be able to hitch a ride out of Corpsefall after signing a pact with the demon.  A devious person may be able to sneak through any portals when the punished minion is welcomed back home.



4. If one could combine the magic of flight with prophecy.  One could figure out where & when the next corpse will fall and be able to fly up through the portal before it closes.  This upper dimension is probably another hell dimension, where the reptile beings are continuously clothed in flesh and tortured to death.  With their 'used' up bodies being dropped into Corpsefall. 


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Old Dreamer's comment on 2011-03-17 09:01 PM


Not my cup of tea but very creative. The concept of dead creatures falling from the sky seemed too implausible at first, but the ecology seems to work out. I remember a coffee-table sci-fi art book called "Expedition" I believe that contemplated an alien planet that had monstrosities living their lives in the air. Can't recall the science behind how the beasts survived but it seemed plausible. 



Fascinating idea though. Thanks!


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