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The Crystal Retort
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Demagogue's comment on 2007-02-11 12:15 PM
Wow, you planned everything out perfectly, it can fit into almost any campaign, and you describe it very well. My take on the the sewer area was that the smell would be simply repressed by a low level spell (or even an alchemical substance?). Go to Comment
The Crystal Retort
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Wulfhere's comment on 2007-02-07 12:17 AM
You mean help him AS you laugh at him, don't you? Go to Comment
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Wulfhere's comment on 2007-02-07 10:24 AM
I was very impressed by this shop and its nasty staff! It's very well detailed and could serve as the focus for several different types of adventures. I would like to use it in the background, a place that the player characters visit suspiciously, but can't actually tie to anything wrong or illegal...

I'm not overly fond of the hoary "secret tunnel in the sewers" schtick, for several reasons. The hidden basement chambers and workshop would need to have good ventilation, or they would become quite nasty. Since he wants to ensure that his hidden chambers are unmolested, he would hide their accessway carefully, but having to slosh through filth to reach the workshop: What a pain! Getting supplies in and out would also be conspicuous and irritating.

Access to the sewers would also require substantial safeguards in to ensure that his shop didn't get flooded out. If I were him, I would have the sewer exit only as an emergency exit and hide my entrance in another structure nearby. If a group of people consistently head into the sewers every day, that's conspicuous. If the same group heads to the private offices of "Hekmer and Blandeel, Ltd.", some (defunct) merchant company, nobody would bat an eye.

If I were Hachnar, I would place a small hidden shaft (too narrow for someone to fit down it) from the main shop to allow items to be surreptitiously moved between the shops and improve ventilation. It could be disquised as some sort of drain or waste disposal chute. Go to Comment
The Crystal Retort
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Wulfhere's comment on 2007-02-07 01:04 PM
I wasn't thinking of the alchemical fumes, which you had already addressed. I was thinking that with a sewer as the main entrance to the place, the atmosphere would be quite... pungent. In theory, the same magical apparatus that serves as a "fume hood" could handle that as well.

Few fantasy villains have air conditioning for their lairs... Go to Comment
The Crystal Retort
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the Wanderer's comment on 2007-02-07 08:42 AM
Alright, I was tired when I hit the button last time. Now I'll vote (hopefully) Go to Comment
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Ted's comment on 2013-02-27 04:00 AM
Only voted Go to Comment
Miscasting Black Essence
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Ancient Gamer's comment on 2009-12-07 03:19 AM
Will you ever finish it, val? Go to Comment
Miscasting Black Essence
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valadaar's comment on 2007-12-19 02:49 PM
Tis a big one - need to revisit! Go to Comment
Miscasting Black Essence
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valadaar's comment on 2013-06-03 10:56 AM
Ring of Disappearance
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manfred's comment on 2007-01-30 01:00 PM
I guess many users will not care, but it is a good explanation for its effect (both the good and the bad one).

Are the elemental parts present in several dimensions, each in its own, or is it only one? Any way, it sounds like the wearer has a solid body (bodies) somewhere else... bet this is going to make things diffilcut for creatures like elementals and ghosts, who are also partially 'elsewhere'.


And while away, the elements concentrated before in one's body, become slowly dispersed across dimensions, like a faint trail of dust left everywhere the character was... the worst thing is, once the effect advances enough, not even stopping to wear the ring will help - the poor soul will shed his body eventually and be lost.


A common item on the surface, going deeper than it seems. I like it. Go to Comment
Ring of Disappearance
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manfred's comment on 2007-01-30 03:17 PM
One body is fine, less hassle in explaining.

Of course, a firm believer would just claim that it is the remains of the elements that make up the spirit, and were the effect of the ring stronger, it would simply displace the whole person elsewhere. But as it is, dividing the essences between two worlds cannot work forever - and ends up dividing them in a most tragic way.

Rebuttal rebutted. Or...? :) Go to Comment
Ring of Disappearance
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Iain's comment on 2007-01-30 04:18 PM
Really like this item - as well as it's good properties (and its tie-in to Elemental Theory!) I like a "realistic" explanation of invisibility other than the usual light-bends-around you one. Go to Comment
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Scrasamax's comment on 2007-02-03 11:08 AM
Nice piece, I like the elemental aspect given to the normally mundane Ring of invisibility. Good work. Go to Comment
Ring of Disappearance
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Cheka Man's comment on 2007-01-30 06:40 PM
Not a ring to use too often. Go to Comment
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Mourngrymn's comment on 2007-02-02 04:40 PM
This has so much potential it screams use me. Obliterating a PC is a bit much, but hey Im a fatalistic GM I like it. Go to Comment
Ring of Disappearance
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Murometz's comment on 2007-02-03 09:56 AM
nice one, val! An alternative twist on invisibility, and a good one at that. Go to Comment
Ring of Disappearance
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valadaar's comment on 2007-01-30 02:52 PM
As to seperate dimensions or a single one, I didn't think about that, but one seems logical to me.

The 'body' would be in an odd state - being fire,earth and water - basically a 'Caloric' elemental, but it would lack any 'spirit' to animate it. I suppose an evil spirit could poach the Caloric body, again trapping the ring user in it's semi air form.


From Theory of Elements
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Thirdly come the four tertiary elements, the great fluids that permeate all things. These are each formed by the fusion, in equal parts, of the quintessence of three primary elements. They are Caloric (Earth, Water, Fire), Ether (Air, Water, Fire), Phlogiston (Fire, Earth, Air) and Vital Essence or Vitality (Water, Earth, Air).
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It is built with the concepts discussed in Ians' Theory of Elements in mind or more specifically, the rebuttal I added to his sub insisting that Spirit is indeed a pure element, and not a combination of the four (which, by the way, this ring would prove by it's existance :) ) Go to Comment
Ring of Disappearance
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valadaar's comment on 2007-01-30 08:03 PM
Up to you just how long is too long :) Go to Comment
Ring of Disappearance
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valadaar's comment on 2007-02-02 06:25 PM
Other notes:

Even stuck in 'ghost' form, they retain about 25% of their strength and may be able to communicate their fate to others, though they are little more then a weak air elemental. Depending on the magic available in the campaign, there may be spells to undo the effect.

Sages or wizards highly skilled in Elemental magic may be able to detect the design flaw if they research the ring.

A simple plot idea could be the attempt to reunit someone who has been diselementized (new word?) - maybe even the ring's original creator. Go to Comment
Ring of Disappearance
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Wulfhere's comment on 2007-02-02 02:47 PM
The faint runes on the ring's edge were barely legible... "Warning: The Surgeon General has determined that invisibility can be hazardous to your health. Do not use if pregnant or planning to become pregnant. Not for use by those with heart conditions or lack of heart conditions..."

If the PCs don't expect the ring's dangerous side, this one could be nasty. On one hand (the "Nice GM"), it would be cruel to "hose" a PC that way; on the other hand (the "Not-quite-so-nice GM"), it would serve them right for using a powerful magic item without doing some research.

If they aren't paranoid when they find a ring sitting on the floor in an empty corridor, they haven't read "The Lord of the Rings" lately... Go to Comment
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