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MUL-FS550 Fire Support Robot
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valadaar's comment on 2007-02-27 10:11 AM
Okay, obviously I need to frame these 'Bots more.

The universe in question is based on an old scratch-based Sci-Fi/Fantasy/Horror campaign of mine I ran a very long time ago, and was not of sufficent quality to present as-was here. It featured many cliche elements, but it was fun to run. We had battles between cyborgs, demons, Psychotic government agents wiping out anything abnormal, fleet battles, vampires, you name it. Since the PC's were Immortals of highlander fame, you get the picture.

Some of the ideas from that old campaing I thought were still useful, so I have been salvaging what I thought was useful. The background needs work though to make it more generic and less silly. I wanted to present what I had assuming that the ideas were generic enough to meld into other worlds.

But to answer your questions:

In 2450, Humanity is scattered over an assortment of worlds. Some were peacefully colonized, others seized from the alien races that held them. There is no central government, only a shifting set of alliances. One thing that is shared by the worlds are the Rules of Engagement, which serve to limit combat to prevent complete destruction of colonies. Part of these rules include proscriptions against nuclear weapons, along with combative AI's. The second point is a bit gray, as support systems such as the MUL-FS550 Fire Support Robot are close to the line. The fact that a human operator is required to pull the trigger satisfies the letter of the Rules, if not the spirit.

The various planets fight among each other for various reasons - vendettas, trade, resources,etc, but these usually are low-level engagements between professional mercenary groups. Use of planetary military elements is generally considered a dangerous escalation. The Planetary forces are generally used to defend against non-human enemies, where the Rules of Engagement do not apply.

The Robots are built to satisfy various military needs to reduce the imployment of expensive (and perhaps unreliable) mercenary forces, as well as to limit human casulties. Numerous companies manufacture the robots and sell them to pretty much anyone who has the currency to afford them.

I hope this helps! Is anyone interesting in more polishing of this world concept (I know it has elements heavily barrowed from other sources...)

Created ROE 2450 as a stub for future development. Go to Comment
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valadaar's comment on 2007-08-02 09:19 PM
Well, guess this was not too much of a stretch:

http://www.lockheedmartin.com/wms/findPage.do?dsp=fec&ci=13791&rsbci=13791&fti=0&ti=0&sc=400

Though mine does have vertical launch cells, so there! :P Go to Comment
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valadaar's comment on 2010-02-22 12:26 PM
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valadaar's comment on 2010-11-11 07:38 PM
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valadaar's comment on 2013-05-31 10:56 AM
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Wulfhere's comment on 2007-02-27 07:47 PM
A solidly-done, well-detailed piece of equipment that can be a useful addition to many science-fiction settings.

I particularly like the opening tale and the detailed technical specifications that lend a convincing aura of versimilitude.

Good Work. Go to Comment
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Jarons20's comment on 2007-02-27 08:16 AM
Ok, I am liking these robots, especially the intro passages, and the tech specs
but why create them, who created them, any backstory to the war? Go to Comment
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Kassy's comment on 2014-05-29 10:45 AM
4.0/5

Good sub. After mentioning Tom Clancy in chat, I can see the world influence. Go to Comment
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manfred's comment on 2007-02-22 04:05 PM
This thing has nicely grown with the comments. It appears the future will have its share of battles and wars as well, so why not show the more tender sides of technology (with all the possible side effects that have been noted).

I like your little trip into the 'modern'. Will there be more? Go to Comment
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manfred's comment on 2007-02-23 01:25 PM
That sounds actually like a good idea. And we need more life in the Advice Requested, that much is sure.


Go, Science Fiction! Go to Comment
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manfred's comment on 2007-06-30 07:10 AM
The ancestor is slowly developing... note the teddy bear appearance, that is a nice touch you have forgotten. :)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6729745.stm (hat tip to Pariah) Go to Comment
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MoonHunter's comment on 2007-02-23 12:49 PM
That is the problem with science ficiton pieces, they must provide an explanation that is logical and consistant. You have to follow general Newtonian laws and material science. You can't just wave your hand and say "it is magic.. so it is unknowable, unexplainable, random". Technology needs to be built. People need to have direct reasons fo doing so. There has to be an economic incentive if the item is not a one off.

(You, and anyone writing science fiction subs, also need to give more background material, so we know the applicable setting for the subject. Unfortunately, there is no "generic science fiction background" like there is for fantasy (psuedo european medieval fantasy of the Tolkien mold). Thus we need a bit more setting material incorperated or a linked setting submission.

I think you just need to think about what can be done with the products a little more. To see their applications all the way through, including other options. This one just needed some more explanation and had that one logic hickup. Kineticite violated the third law of thermodynamics in places. Both were solid ideas, they were just not thought through as well as they could of been. So keep making science ficiton, just check the logic and science before you release them.

Oh and science fantasy has many of the same issues. You need to give a lot of setting material and a lot of logical sounding gobblygook to make it seem like technology rather than magic. Go to Comment
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MoonHunter's comment on 2007-02-21 12:00 PM
Interesting idea and the write up has some nice features.

The advert part at the top makes it look like the unit is for domestic/ commercial other than governmental/ institutional use. It just has the same feel as a toaster ad.

Does this follow Asmovian Rules, or just can't be an offensive? Since it is really smart, it gets to decide what it can do?

If this thing is smarter than your average human soldier, then why does need to be directed by a human medic? Why not a soldier?

And does it have to obey? So if you don't like your buddy, you can order this thing to jump on him?

Will it work on the opposition? Can I tell it to jump on another guy (who is hopefully injured)? Or if he is about to kill me, he is obviously sick (in the head) and must be subdued and taken for treatment.

So hopefully it can decide as to what it should do. And does it decide to do it well? Go to Comment
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Iain's comment on 2007-03-01 06:02 PM
I've got to say I really disagree with a lot of the people here - I don't think the submission has logical hiccups in or contains implausible science, nor do I feel a need for more settings details.

The science is plenty deep enough for a sense of verisimilitude and the way it works (e.g. the restrictions) all seem to make sense and have a nice grey area around the border to make things interesting.

Overall, very good! I could pick this up and drop it into almost any science-fiction campaign I was running - it not into the main society, then into a smaller world/system that the PCs visited. Go to Comment
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Cheka Man's comment on 2007-02-21 06:44 PM
Only voted Go to Comment
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Pariah's comment on 2007-02-22 08:30 AM
Only voted Go to Comment
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valadaar's comment on 2007-02-21 12:47 PM
>The advert part at the top makes it look like the unit is for domestic/ commercial other than >governmental/ institutional use. It just has the same feel as a toaster ad.

That was the feel I was going for actually, or something from a Soldier of Fortune magazine.

>Does this follow Asmovian Rules, or just can't be an offensive? Since it is really smart, it >gets to decide what it can do?

Not formally - the world view where this is invisioned had a bad experience with automated soldiers, so armed Robots are banned. It is smart within the domain of it's programming. It could be reprogrammed as a combat unit in defiance of the treaty.

>If this thing is smarter than your average human soldier, then why does need to be directed by a >human medic? Why not a soldier?

Primarily for the same reason as they can't be armed. They are smart, but not allowed to have initiative. As to why not soldiers and only medics, command and control reasons. Dumb Grunts are not trained to direct medical robots (for good or ill). They are intended to reduce the number of medics per unit and therefore reduce the training costs of larger formations. One human medic can direct numerous RR80's.

>And does it have to obey? So if you don't like your buddy, you can order this thing to jump on >him?

No - it would ignore that order unless your buddy was injured and required it's services. An NCO or officer could probably override this, but you bet there would be a note in the after action report. It is programmed with basic Military operations, so it is rank aware. One might even assign a rank to the robot, but again under treaty obligations, it cannot give orders to combat soldiers.

>Will it work on the opposition? Can I tell it to jump on another guy (who is hopefully injured)? >Or if he is about to kill me, he is obviously sick (in the head) and must be subdued and taken >for treatment.

It is not programmed for Human Medical (Psycological) so 'sick in the head' is beyond its area of knowlege. It could be ordered to help even the opposition, i.e. prisoners. It would be possible to use it offensively in this manner, but I think shooting the enemy would be simpler.

Since it is not extraordinarily effective as a combantant (at least without programming upgrades), using it offensively is not practical. Go to Comment
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valadaar's comment on 2007-02-22 04:08 PM
I've got a few more in mind. The response to modern+ seems less then for fantasy.
I like people poking technical holes in the subs - lets me be more through on the next ones.

I'll start marking the more way out ones with Science Fantasy I guess :) Go to Comment
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valadaar's comment on 2007-02-23 02:15 PM
Which part of the sub do you consider a logic hiccup? The fact that it can be used to attack is not a hiccup in my mind.

Kineticite is another story, but I am not entirely convinced something like it is not possible. Perhaps not explosive, I'll grant. Since it is Sci-Fi, it needs to be somewhat plausible. Going further then that is actual design and if I figure out how to store energy with nanoscale flywheels, I'd better apply for my patent now! :) It's purpose it to provide a non-chemical explosive to a sci -fi setting. Sci fi is all about What If, not What is. Some of the best Sci-fi i've read is entirely implausable by todays (or yesterdays) physics (i.e. ANY FTL) and do not follow Newtonian Physics. (Which, are not in 100% concurrance with General Relativity anyway, at least at the larger end of the scale, at least according to some articals in Discover,etc, I've read...)

The setting that most influenced me was one where disputes were settled with low-tech mercenary battles (19th century arms only) and I just moved the timeframe for allowed weapons a little further, and added the rules against robots directly fighting. Go to Comment
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