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manfred's comment on 2009-10-18 03:15 PM
Imagine the evening sky, sun setting, the night is almost here... and a host of triangular things slowly floating upon a city. Soon they will be invisible and find their targets.

Surely they have their weaknesses, but they do fill a niche, as said. Go to Comment
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Siren no Orakio's comment on 2009-09-14 02:38 PM
Its a reengineering of the laser guided bomb, (the first case) and the MIRV ICBM, which we've been using since Vietnam and 1986, respectively. I suspect this will be used in a similar manner- the main delivery vehicle handles the risk over 99 percent of the flight time, this only flies the "last mile", and as such, is generally not particularly easy to handle in the chaos and surprise of war.

Not terribly bad, all in all, it's just one more niche filled. Go to Comment
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Scrasamax's comment on 2009-09-11 01:20 AM
Since the gliders seem to rely on remote operation, aren't they going to be vulnerable to signal jamming or worse for the deployers, signal hacking? Go to Comment
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Cheka Man's comment on 2009-09-10 04:39 PM
Only voted Go to Comment
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axlerowes's comment on 2009-09-15 01:14 PM
You make some good points, but nothing that I didn't address. I tried to address it more clearly.
First- a ten ton glider is big and yes it would be vulnerable to anti-aircraft fire. Also why do you think a glider would be slower than any other unpowered bomb?

There is no mention of stealth, but the lack of a powerful engine, the use of a carbon shell will make it harder to detect by radar. I think I noted that, but stealth glider could also be employed.

If you launch a glider from space, you may have greater than 30 minutes of flight time, but you are a right bad weather could reduce flight time and reduce the effectiveness of the weapon. How long does it take the space shuttle to land?

I didn't mean to suggest this was great weapon, but was instead a cost effective one. Sometime 40 technologically limited and easy to maintain tanks are better than 1 excellent but difficult to maintain tank. But often I think wars are fought by weapons that could be improved and are not the top the line. The point of this item was give the players something to interact with that was different than the typical bomb or surface lander, but I believe could have a realistic backstory.

As to the payload, the space shuttle weighs more than 10-tons, WW2 gliders carried more than 7-tons. Go to Comment
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axlerowes's comment on 2009-09-15 01:14 PM
yup-see game use. Go to Comment
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axlerowes's comment on 2009-09-26 01:11 PM
Update: Fixed some typos and word use errors. Go to Comment
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valadaar's comment on 2009-09-10 06:43 PM
Just how big is the 10-ton Glider? Since gliders are generally very slow, aren't they rather vulnerable to anti-aircraft fire?

There is no mention about stealth being used to protect them, and so slow gliders would simply be blown or lased out of the air with little difficulty.

With stealth, they are much more practical, but would need to be used only at night, but then you do not have the thermal updrafts typically used by gliders to stay aloft - without them you will be lucky to have 30 minutes of flight time.

Now, very small, stealthy ones would be useful perhaps as short range precision weapons on unsuspecting targets...


Just am not buying this as a great weapon - perhaps an emergency one, but even in WWII they were adopted for a short interval, and then replaced by missiles. And a 10-ton payload glider is bigger then a Semi.



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valadaar's comment on 2009-10-14 06:54 PM
I had overlooked to comparison to the space shuttle - my own experience with gliders has been with the conventional tow-into-the-air versions. The picture of basically an offensive space-shuttle clarifies the image for me. I had forgotten about that billion-dollar glider :P

Seems more practical from that standpoint. Go to Comment
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Silveressa's comment on 2012-03-01 02:00 AM


One thing to bear in mind however is a traditional modern space shuttle is essentially a flying brick upon atmosphere reentry and doesn't so much "glide" as "fall out fo the sky under minimal pilot control" so keeping one in the air for hours would prove rather difficult without altering the main design a fair bit. (To be more reminiscent of the WWII style glider, i.e something with a large wing span and surface area) Additionally one could also attach solar panels and a cheap electric driven prop to the rear (that can be remotely detached if desired) to give it added flight time and distance.

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Silveressa's comment on 2012-03-01 02:14 AM


A handy low beduget weapon that I can readily see employed by rebels fighting with minimal supplies. It would also fit well in the warzone/mutant chronicles sci-fi rpg setting due to the low tech level of the majority of weaponry there.


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Nocontrivedname's comment on 2009-10-13 07:58 PM
Hey Axle,

Nice to see the sword of techno babble cuts both ways. Well done Valadaar. See it doesn't matter if you address his points or not, or if his points are valid. Gaming is done in an agreed upon reality. If everyone agree glider bombs work, then they work. One question, what do you mean by "Christmas package type effect"?

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manfred's comment on 2009-08-16 03:48 PM
A nice little lifeform, full of color and (hard-to-use) potential, I do like it.

That was even before the Orcish bit about souls of cowards, that sealed it for me. Great bird, axlerowes! Go to Comment
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Cheka Man's comment on 2009-08-24 03:26 PM
Useful in most games. Go to Comment
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Michael Jotne Slayer's comment on 2009-08-16 04:40 PM
::Stamp of Really Good:: Go to Comment
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Murometz's comment on 2009-09-22 01:37 PM
I recently had an idea about soul-carrying birds, and started writing, then ran into this. LOVE THEM TO DEATH!! No, really. *POOF* (they now populate most of my campaign worlds). Thank you. Go to Comment
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Murometz's comment on 2011-03-19 12:20 AM


I just absolutely love these birds.


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Murometz's comment on 2012-02-18 11:42 PM
the orcish bit about the souls of cowards rocked. Go to Comment
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valadaar's comment on 2009-08-11 06:36 PM
This is really good Axle! This has enough realistic detail and as you have said, has good game use. Where they could possibly be very valuable is as a wizard's familiar.

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