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Pieh's comment on 2012-04-15 04:49 PM


This is a really cool idea. Could probably be a nice fairytale of sorts about the powers of friendship with a little work. Great tale, with useful hooks. Nice one.


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Roack's comment on 2012-02-21 01:40 AM


Wow, that was not what I was expecting.



Muro brings up a great point, buildings that influential would most certainly cause an impact. I mean, you know, an historical one. After their deaths, and the immediate collapses, I could see an endless parade of revivalists, archiechtural taboos, and official investigations. Survivors would be left wondering, did Sid and Jir really sabotage their own masterpieces? Did one of them do it? Was could cause them to do such a thing?


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Murometz's comment on 2012-02-18 07:26 PM


I thought this was a touching tale actually, and was surprised when the 'towers fell' as i read it. Very nice. Its also somehow allegorical, but i can't quite place my finger on the lesson learned. Beautiful story! Their deaths and incomparable talents will be mourned, i am sure, tragic as their passing was. (I can only imagine how many lives were lost that day.)



I can also see the Sidjirian architectural technique being taught in the future, despite the futility of it all. I can see neo-sidjirianism.



I have to use this somehow.

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axlerowes's comment on 2012-02-18 09:21 AM


I had been thinking about this, not specific co-dependant brother builders, but a post that doesn't just present a moment in time to be used.  Your story gives us the all the information we need to understand the ambition of the character, the social view of thier works and the evntual consequences of what will happen.  But your plots hooks suggest a use of the general concepts.  By providing us with a complete time line, you give us the option to insert the characters at any point during the time.  The magic itself is like an item.  



 



Plot Hook: To aid in a rebellion, the hero must try and sow a rift between Sid and Jir in order make the evil over lord vunerable


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montreve's comment on 2012-02-20 01:20 PM


I really like the idea of inherent magic of some sort, the magic that is based on the fact that a person wants or needs something to work, rather than based on study or practice of 'magic'. Cool idea and a lot of flavor in the story as well truly an entertaining post.


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Kal_23's comment on 2013-12-19 10:15 AM
A very interesting concept. I'm wondering if I could work it into my game though. The plot hooks don't really suit my players, in so far as it wouldn't interest them. Slayers, and powergamers all. Still. . .a good idea, and food for thought. Go to Comment
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Strolen's comment on 2011-08-07 02:19 PM

I won't say it isn't heavy handed or harsh. The fact remains that I know of a small chunk of great authors that have left or took an extremely long break because of the outcome of these type discussions.


As mentioned, the hope is that there won't be much need for it. Your tangible fear :) of the message is warning enough that most will comprehend. It is more of an acknowledgement of what has happened in the past and what will not happen in the future. This also now serves as a tool to link to in order to dissuade any of these types of discussions. As far as those articles, I am still undecided and much will depend on the Strolenati. Emotion in these things are the enemy, not necessarily the topic. However, many are unable to separate the two and that is the danger in these types of topics.


Bottom Line: It will be up to the Strolenati to determine if the Hammer is required. If the Hammer becomes necessary to maintain peace and tranquility, this rule serves as the justification.

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Strolen's comment on 2011-08-08 11:57 PM
Commenters can volunteer whatever information they want when it directly relates in some way to the submission they are commenting on. This is really aimed more at the Author responses that start questioning the commenter's way of doing things. Although voting low for grammar is a bit taboo so that might be a bad example anyway. ;) Go to Comment
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Agar's comment on 2011-08-12 02:09 AM


FYI: I did indeed take a long break from Strolens at one point, so long I am reading my own subs and it seems a different voice wrote them than my own, however, it was not due to any voting and/or arguments. I started a family and was busy. Now I'm struggling to keep my house and busy, but strangely less busy than I was before. I may not pick back up my former level of activity, and am unsure of my voice, but I am back, and glad to be here.


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Pieh's comment on 2011-08-07 10:23 AM


This article is scary. The name, the tone. The message, intent and application aren't, but damn. Reading this gave me a sense of impending doom, fear of the Hammer's retribution. I'm curious though, with articles such as Silv's and Mourn's and a few others about how to vote and act here, will we be allowed to discuss voting practices when the subject is so blatantly brought up or are those types of submissions now discouraged?



In any case, I'm not sure if this is a neccesary implementation. Only because it sounds harsh compared to how lax the Citadel has always been. Just remember what old Unlce Ben said, with great power comes great responsibility. 


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Cheka Man's comment on 2011-08-16 12:20 PM


Every site needs a Banhammer and I trust you not to smite me-I don't make such comments about my subs,I hope.


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Ancient Gamer's comment on 2011-08-07 05:36 AM
When something is hammered, send valadaar's words og wisdom to The author of The sub Being hammered Go to Comment
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axlerowes's comment on 2012-02-29 07:47 AM

Strolen, am sure these aren't fun things to post and that people must look to you full fill a role that you didn't ask for or imagine when you started this site.  Thanks, seriously, for stepping up and asking for a higher standard of the site that carries your name. I

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valadaar's comment on 2013-05-08 09:59 PM
Only voted Go to Comment
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Silveressa's comment on 2011-08-07 08:22 AM
Curiosity moves me to inquire: Which words of wisdom are those? Go to Comment
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Silveressa's comment on 2012-04-09 10:16 AM
It also allows those few with grudges against others, to use this law to commit low vote retaliations on their foes subs without fear of persecution. Go to Comment
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Kassy's comment on 2012-04-09 10:15 AM


Whilst the idea itself isn't bad. It is still open to abuse. Effectively giving someone the "I'm going to low-vote your submission just because I can and I won't have to explain myself" card.



In the words of Queen Victoria "I am not amused"


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RGTraynor's comment on 2011-08-07 04:40 PM


((The fact remains that I know of a small chunk of great authors that have left or took an extremely long break because of the outcome of these type discussions.))



I happen to be one of them. Strolen was kind enough to flag me down, thinking (accurately) that I'd be interested in seeing this. It's an overdue article, and may deter some people from the childish BS that has driven authors - myself included - away. I still don't see myself participating further on this site, having been thoroughly soured, but this is a good step.

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RGTraynor's comment on 2012-10-13 05:29 AM
Something of an irony here. I was poking my head in, mulling over whether to start activity here again, when I read a comment from - ironically - one of the editors complaining above, about me low-voting two of his subs ... and who, backed by the timestamps, promptly went and low-voted two of my top ones. One of those was a 5 before the low-voting started (that editor not being the only one who decided on retaliatory voting) and now is at 4.2.

Sorry. I've just had confirmed to me why I left in the first place, and at this point, I'd just as soon take all my contributions down. If we are at the mercy here of any egotistic crybaby with a grudge, there are many places where we can present our works for public consumption without the galling nonsense. Go to Comment
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