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The Black Spear
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CaptainPenguin's comment on 2004-12-02 08:29 PM
Fantastic mythic background!
Reasonable but interesting ability!
This is the kind of item I like to see.

5/5! Go to Comment
The Black Spear
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Shadoweagle's comment on 2004-12-03 07:39 AM
0/5! Terrible! Shocking! Ugh! ...

er, wait, wrong page.

5/5! Love it! Very nice!

Personally, I'd give it a 4.5 of 5, but since there is no such value, and the score is ALREADY 4.50/5 i'll round it up for you ;)
I like the background of this item. We all know I like the whole 'Dark gods' and 'hidden evil' type thing :)

If this hidden god was as twisted and evil as the dragons, as is said ("a sacred shrine to a god as dark and terrible as the dragons themselves"), I can't help but think that there is to be some sort of twist which will come into play somewhere along the lines.

Hmm, as a matter of fact, I'd like to talk with you sometime, Scras, about making that world. A world with a history of dark dragons, with a malevolant evil god, and an array of good gods who just arent as powerful... Anywho, t'will be thought on! Go to Comment
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Shadoweagle's comment on 2004-12-03 08:54 AM
'usually' is BORING, Manfred! :O Why NOT make a dark, occult world ruled by an evil lord. A world where people are unexplainedly stricken with plaque or illness. Where madness and mutation is common, and even the great heros have to pay homage to the dark god, or else they may have things happen to them!?

So power tree would be as follows from best:

Dark God
Ancient (and rare, since most are dead) dragons, now living in fear of the dark god.
Greater gods of good.
Lesser (and still rare) dragons.
Greatest magi in the Lands.
Lesser gods of good.
Average magi.
Human population.
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Ok, Im getting inspired :) Tomorrow I might make a post in the setting forge and get this thing going :D Thanks for the inspiration, oh Scrasified one!
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And Im thinking more of the greater, dark god bieng ruler over the universe, but focusing on this world currently, and the good gods having travelled to this world to watch over it, and perhaps offer some respite from the fury of the greater god (though they cannot do enough to stop the dark god alone.) Im thinking the humans werent created by any god, but evolved or something, and the gods simply attach themselves to worlds. If a world is destroyed, the hop to another world to try and save (or destroy) it. Nomadic gods!

Man, Ideas bristling! Im gonna go sleep on this ^^ Go to Comment
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Shadoweagle's comment on 2004-12-03 06:45 PM
THAT DOES IT!!!!!! ><

IM POSTING THIS DAMNED WORLD! Go to Comment
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Maggot's comment on 2004-12-02 10:33 PM
Once again,you amaze us,Scras.I really like the fact that you created a 5 flame item using material from ''Ogre raid''.This is truly testament to you inventiveness and creativity. Go to Comment
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Maggot's comment on 2004-12-04 01:17 AM
It could be such that the wielder must become a servant of the Dark God,carrying out that which the god wills.And in death too,he must continue serving with no respite.Think of it as the work bond from hell. Go to Comment
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Scrasamax's comment on 2004-12-03 03:58 PM
Wow. I did not expect this much feedback, let alone a five-flamer! I really like this dark world that seems to be growing from this one post, I generally like the darker games anyhow, Ravenloft, Call of Cthulhu, and the entire World of Darkness milieu. Now for my two cents.

This elder god of evil is perhaps not the malevolent evil we think he is, but is a more apathetic deity, more interested in the trials and sufferings of the common populace. The world that is exists as his experiment in cruelty and compassion, as the two are opposites and cannot exist without the other. Perhaps the dragons are his fallen angels, originally created to serve him, but failing in that they became interested in material things, and their own granduer rather than furthering the god's plans.

As for what he does with them, perhaps they are brought to heel, and forced to sit at their master's feet as they were originally created to do, but by whatever means they previously escaped and slipped their leashes, so to speak.

EVIL RULES! Go to Comment
The Black Spear
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Scrasamax's comment on 2004-12-03 10:41 PM
I am stuck, however, on the price of the spear. Perhaps to be more precise, the cost of using the spear. The first thing that came to mind was that the user most certainly had to have the will to use the weapon. Second, there would be a sacrifice. For this sacrifice, it would have to be of great value and importance, like offering a loved one as blood sacrifice to the Dark God, or perhaps even offerings ones own life upon completion of the task. There could even be a twist that the price for each user is different. I really like the suicide/sacrifice angle, but it leaves a gap in the creation of the dynasties when using the item ensures that its user is not around afterwards to breed. Any input? Go to Comment
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Scrasamax's comment on 2004-12-04 06:53 AM
The Blackguard, the undying servants of the Dark Gods, akin to the Nazgul, and to Spawn in that their existance is continued for the sole purpose of servitude. This could be a good into into a cult of ancestor worship, praying to the spirits of the dead for help and guidance, these fallen kings and heros could be the Saints and scourges of a culture who worship the dead. Go to Comment
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EchoMirage's comment on 2004-12-03 04:19 AM
This item shoul be used only in a campaign where the objective is to stave off the return of the dragons - in all other campaigns, it removes the respect and fear the dragons should evoke in all who face them, or just see them flying overhead.

I just wonder - what is the dark god doing with all the dragons in his realm? Perhaps his aid was not all that selfless.

A good one. 4/5 Go to Comment
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EchoMirage's comment on 2004-12-04 03:35 AM
Anyone thought of ... Spawn?
You use the spear, live a life, and afterwards, you come back, as ... something else. Go to Comment
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Cheka Man's comment on 2004-12-02 06:02 PM
Very good. 5/5 Go to Comment
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Cheka Man's comment on 2006-04-28 05:31 PM
A truely fearful weapon from a dragon's POV. Go to Comment
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Sentinel's comment on 2004-12-04 03:20 PM
I like this idea very much. And loved it that you were able to put in my Kasmir as one of it and you've actually done a better job then me at giving a little summary of them. Excellant beyond degree and I don't care if it's too powerful for we have to be realistic. There are weapons out there that are very powerful and sometimes you just have to live with a very powerful thing like this. But I'm not saying that every weapon should be powerful, only to a degree. Count this as a Divine Weapon then

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Dream's comment on 2006-01-30 06:04 PM
Um, I just wanted to say that I didn't see your idea of a black spear until just now. Yours is admittedly a better idea than mine, but then you have a lot more experience at this sort of thing, from what I can tell. Perhaps I'll always be new at this site. Thanks. Go to Comment
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chilled's comment on 2006-05-25 06:49 AM
just as good if not better than your NPC (M.T.) that i just commented on the PC's in the campaign that i am running right now will come up against a terrifying black dragon pretty soon. Go to Comment
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valadaar's comment on 2014-08-25 07:58 AM
Great stuff! Mythic in scope. I enjoyed the comment stream it provoked. Would love to see this type of discussion flaring up here again.

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OmegaDraco's comment on 2012-06-25 08:44 AM
As the "Snicker snack" vorpal sword is to the jabberwock, so is the Black Spear to the draconic. Since the spear appears to be hammered, non-magical, and not valuable, it will most likely be reforged into better equipment, tools, or furnishings in times of peace. The spear is most likely lost. However, when dragons rule once again, I imagine that the dark god will be called on once again. It could be a fun quest to find the pieces of star iron that once, as a spear, brought the dragons low. Go to Comment
Stormshroud
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manfred's comment on 2005-07-20 06:08 AM
If it occupies a significant part of a whole continent, there could live a few primitive communities on its edge... in deep fear of the monstrous weather nearby, maybe even worshipping it, or placating with gifts. Or sacrifices. Like PCs sent in to destroy it. Go to Comment
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CaptainPenguin's comment on 2004-11-25 08:15 PM
Reminds me of one of my favorite things in the Idea area, the one about the city where it started raining and never stopped (eels in the gutters, and such).

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