And we have another round of Why we don't like annoymous postings. Empowerment through lack of responsibility.
Strolen said he is the only one who is supposed to delete things... yet...
CP should not take bait and respond to simple and base attacks. Moderator. You are supposed to defuse situations, not add to them.
BH: yes, I mean you. Losers engage in pointless personal attacks against people that they don't even know or care about. That aside. Let us see what you can do. Enroll in the site and see how well you can post. Show us up, if you can.
By the way. Like this post. It does due to the subject matter. Go to Comment
Grond - the great mace of Morgoth, with which he fought Fingolfin; called the Hammer of the Underworld. The battering ram used against the Gate of Minas Tirith was named after it. (The Return of the King V4). 185
Quite right you are, such things were my primary inspiration. The chanting of the orcs in unison was a very powerful image, one that was a major inspiration to this post. However, dear nameless one who lacked the courage to put a name with their accusation, the powers of Grond, the great mace of Morgoth are not named. If you look closer, and happen to know your Arthurian mythology, which obviously you dont, you will see that the powers of Grond parallel the powers of Excaliber/Caliburn.
No one save Morgoth weilds Grond, which is never seen again in the Silmarillion. BTW, there are no E's in Silmarillion. If you intend to attack me I INSIST that you properly spell anything you use as ammunition.
And last but not least, the orcs of Morgoth were slaves. Their very nature was perverted into fear and bondage to Morgoth. The weapon above is a symbol of orcish power, not of Morgoth, or the Lidless Eye, or any of the other elements of the Tolkien mythos. It is a symbol of racial power and their manifest destiny to pillage and destroy.
I think if a non-orc came up with Grond, it would be about like what the human nations would do if Excaliber showed up in the treasure trove of an orcish warlord. Somewhere between a quasi-religious crusade and attempted genocide. Go to Comment
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you are half correct, the great wolf-headed battering ram that broke the main gate was indeed named GRond. If you read the Silmarillion, Morgoth had a personal weapon, a great morning star named Grond. The ram would later be named after Morgoth's hammer. Go to Comment
A morningstar - fitting weapon for an orc... I can see many a steel-clad knigh falling to the sheer fury of Grond.
While Excalibur is noble and elegant, Grond should be massive like a mountain, black as a moonless night and fierce as polar winter. No subtlety, just feral savage power.
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Largely I agree with Cheka Man and MoonHunter. Orcs are a lot more than sword fodder for the PCs to beat up; they are intelligent, culture forming creatures with hopes and desires of their own. They could, and indeed should, be played as intelligent beings with complex cultures and mythologies.
In of itself Grond is perhaps a little over-powered ("shields splinter under the first strike and armour provides no protection") but the link with orcish mythology allows for it as a one-off, unique artefact (much like the sword Excalibur, which has a similar basis in human mythology). Logically if Excalibur exists as the mark of human kingship, then Grond (or something very much like it) might also exist as the mark of orcish chiefdom.
On the whole a good item. I can't quite give it a 5 because I don't get the "Wow, I wish I'd thought that" feeling, but definitely a good solid 4.
Your write-up is very good. The item is very powerful, but thats fine - it should be given its history (one question - what IS its history? we know how the orcs got it in a time of need, but when was it made and by whom and why was it lost if so powerful? i know i'm being picky, but you don't address this)
pretty awesome post. and we need more non-sword weapons... Go to Comment
An excellent item! My only negative comment would have been not to use the name Grond. It opens one up to a lot of criticism. It did not affect my vote, but I would expect to be beaten up over a sub I called Excaliber, Gandalf, etc. They are great names, to be sure, but the baggage carried with them would serve to color any such post. Go to Comment