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Grond, Hammer of the Underworld
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manfred's comment on 2006-02-26 04:17 AM
I took the liberty and deleted a vulgare comment from Barbarian Horde - since that is what to such comments happens. To restate it, the anonymous was now a bit content with the update and proper respect given to the great J.R.R. Tolkien. On the other hand, he actually wasn't and has shown his displeasure as he was able to.


To answer on your last question, dear nameless "What is is this website anyway?", you could take a look at the homepage. Right below the logo and a few links is a little introduction text:
"Welcome to Strolen's Citadel. We are an online, interactive, searchable resource for game masters, storytellers and players. We provide a friendly place for the sharing, commenting, and voting on user submitted game elements to include plots, npcs, locations, items, creatures, entire settings and much much more. We major in Fantasy, but there is more than swords and sorcery here. You can find resources to fit into almost any genre or setting. We try to avoid game specific material, and instead lean towards what can be easily adapted to most any system. Also, don't forget to explore the forums and the chat where you can join in a discussion or a game in progress. This free role playing site continues to grow with your help, so join our roleplaying community, read our material, post a few ideas, and go play. Read, Post, Play!"
In case of more questions you can go into the forums.


Now, if you can start something with this, then feel free to become a user; just mind the friendly part. Be assured that we value highly the originality of thought, as giving credit to sources of inspiration. Inspiration and originality go often together, anyway. Go to Comment
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manfred's comment on 2007-10-14 06:49 AM
Good question. The background isn't precise on whether it is a truly orcish weapon, or merely claimed and adopted by them. I suspect any known non-orcish wielder would be chased by this race, and I'm pretty sure the runes on it contain curses against such perpetrators.

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Oh, and, there is an easy way to prevent the unfair lumping from happening: anonymous users - particularly those with useful comments - are more than welcome to register and become members. :) Go to Comment
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CaptainPenguin's comment on 2005-02-28 04:48 PM
Well, I once created an orcish mythological item (the Sun Box), but I'd have to say that this one does it a bit better.

4/5. Go to Comment
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CaptainPenguin's comment on 2006-02-26 01:05 AM
Wow.
Well, I think we should just leave this comment here, just for humour value. :D
But seriously, folks... How do you moderate the front page? Because I'd like to remove this, but I don't know how. Go to Comment
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CaptainPenguin's comment on 2006-02-27 12:42 PM
Well, seeing as I don't have the ability to Moderate the main page, that becomes difficult... And c'mon, don't you think it was a good comeback?
BURNINATION Go to Comment
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MoonHunter's comment on 2005-02-26 09:17 AM
I voted a 5 because Cheka forgot to.

I still like it just that much. It is a good weapon for an OrcWorld campaign, or any campaign where you want your orcs to be more than mooks to be mowed down. Go to Comment
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MoonHunter's comment on 2006-02-26 11:37 PM
And we have another round of Why we don't like annoymous postings. Empowerment through lack of responsibility.

Strolen said he is the only one who is supposed to delete things... yet...

CP should not take bait and respond to simple and base attacks. Moderator. You are supposed to defuse situations, not add to them.

BH: yes, I mean you. Losers engage in pointless personal attacks against people that they don't even know or care about. That aside. Let us see what you can do. Enroll in the site and see how well you can post. Show us up, if you can.

By the way. Like this post. It does due to the subject matter. Go to Comment
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Scrasamax's comment on 2006-02-24 03:40 PM
Grond - the great mace of Morgoth, with which he fought Fingolfin; called the Hammer of the Underworld. The battering ram used against the Gate of Minas Tirith was named after it. (The Return of the King V4). 185

Quite right you are, such things were my primary inspiration. The chanting of the orcs in unison was a very powerful image, one that was a major inspiration to this post. However, dear nameless one who lacked the courage to put a name with their accusation, the powers of Grond, the great mace of Morgoth are not named. If you look closer, and happen to know your Arthurian mythology, which obviously you dont, you will see that the powers of Grond parallel the powers of Excaliber/Caliburn.

No one save Morgoth weilds Grond, which is never seen again in the Silmarillion. BTW, there are no E's in Silmarillion. If you intend to attack me I INSIST that you properly spell anything you use as ammunition.

And last but not least, the orcs of Morgoth were slaves. Their very nature was perverted into fear and bondage to Morgoth. The weapon above is a symbol of orcish power, not of Morgoth, or the Lidless Eye, or any of the other elements of the Tolkien mythos. It is a symbol of racial power and their manifest destiny to pillage and destroy.

So there. Go to Comment
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Scrasamax's comment on 2006-02-24 03:42 PM
Updated: In response to some complaints, I also submit that Tolkien was a major inspiration. I thought this to be obvious enough to not warrant comment. I was wrong. Go to Comment
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Scrasamax's comment on 2007-10-15 12:18 AM
I think if a non-orc came up with Grond, it would be about like what the human nations would do if Excaliber showed up in the treasure trove of an orcish warlord. Somewhere between a quasi-religious crusade and attempted genocide. Go to Comment
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Scrasamax's comment on 2009-01-06 10:42 PM
The Barbarian Horde is anonymous users who comment on the site, either unregistered members, or on rare occasion members who are for various reasons not signed in. The site is quite open in it's access. Go to Comment
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Scrasamax's comment on 2009-01-07 10:40 PM
you are half correct, the great wolf-headed battering ram that broke the main gate was indeed named GRond. If you read the Silmarillion, Morgoth had a personal weapon, a great morning star named Grond. The ram would later be named after Morgoth's hammer. Go to Comment
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EchoMirage's comment on 2005-02-28 10:54 AM
A morningstar - fitting weapon for an orc... I can see many a steel-clad knigh falling to the sheer fury of Grond.
While Excalibur is noble and elegant, Grond should be massive like a mountain, black as a moonless night and fierce as polar winter. No subtlety, just feral savage power.
4/5 Go to Comment
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EchoMirage's comment on 2005-03-01 08:05 AM
Why shut away sun in funny box when Grond can *SMASH* stoopid sun to pieces?!
Heh heh snicker. Go to Comment
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Cheka Man's comment on 2005-02-26 08:56 AM
I really like the back-story that makes this weapon come to life, and I like it that it's from an orcish viewpoint.Orcs are a lot more then just evil creatures to slay. 5/5 Go to Comment
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Cheka Man's comment on 2006-01-12 07:34 PM
At last I got around to voting. I think of Orcs and other races of that type as more then things to slay. Go to Comment
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Cheka Man's comment on 2007-10-14 10:53 AM
I would think the orcs would come down hard on any non orc with this. Go to Comment
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Cheka Man's comment on 2011-09-27 02:59 PM
Only voted Go to Comment
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Ancient Gamer's comment on 2006-02-26 04:22 AM
Dear Barbarian Horde:
We value originality, but we are often inspired by fiction. This is game related material, so we are not publishing it for commercial interest. There is no copyright infringement, no violation of the law, just gamers being inspired by various sources. Go to Comment
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Dragon Lord's comment on 2005-02-28 08:10 AM
Largely I agree with Cheka Man and MoonHunter. Orcs are a lot more than sword fodder for the PCs to beat up; they are intelligent, culture forming creatures with hopes and desires of their own. They could, and indeed should, be played as intelligent beings with complex cultures and mythologies.

In of itself Grond is perhaps a little over-powered ("shields splinter under the first strike and armour provides no protection") but the link with orcish mythology allows for it as a one-off, unique artefact (much like the sword Excalibur, which has a similar basis in human mythology). Logically if Excalibur exists as the mark of human kingship, then Grond (or something very much like it) might also exist as the mark of orcish chiefdom.

On the whole a good item. I can't quite give it a 5 because I don't get the "Wow, I wish I'd thought that" feeling, but definitely a good solid 4.

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