Although I don't personally use orcs within my world, this article is literally overflowing with useful and easily-transported ideas pertaining to the cultures of more primitive, tribal races, not to mention the fact that it's also entertainingly and elegantly written. Did I mention it was overflowing with ideas? Great post! Go to Comment
What I mean to say is that I merely agree with this quote,
"Orcs aren't inhuman or alien. They live in the same cultural world as humans, dwarves and elves, so there is going to be overlap between the two. To make inhuman and alien orcs the orcs will need to be non-humanoid and actual aliens. But once you take that step and you make inhuman alien orcs they aren't orcs, they are inhuman aliens that someone has slapped the name orc on. " Go to Comment
If you want to get into further esoterica, we as a human species are incapable, as a rule, of "making up races for games" that do NOT have/share/exhibit human characteristics. You can name it Elf, Orc, or K'valoxi'zoluquis. Go to Comment
You can tweak away axle but then don't call them orcs call them any other word. Also, please not the 4th oldest cliche in the universe, a race without emotion--yawn. How is that any better?
That's a loaded comment, "there was nothing that needed nonhuman for story-telling"
The beauty of elves is that we impart certain rare human characteristics on them as a whole, same with dwarves and orcs. We scapegoat our baser, more primal, brutish genes onto the orcs and it works. Go to Comment
What in this write up make them seen unhuman or alien? Nothing I could find,
What about the culture is unintuitive or unexpected?
The write up is also old hat.
The revisionist ethnography has been around for a long time and is a staple in fantasy works? How many times have they re-written vampires for example.
The fact that this doesn't take any risks or chances on forming a really alien culture as Forgathus points out, make this more accessible to gamers. What I liked about this was not so much the content as the authors style to writing it. To often things are written from the point of view of some nameless all knowing narrator and lacks a post modern sensibly-which this has.
But Forganthus you have made me revisit this, thankyou Go to Comment
In a fantasy world you could also make their supernatural origin different. Perhaps they were created by a different god or made from different stuff than humans. But the result would be the same as Forganthus's suggestion, the core of these beings is something different than the humanities core.
"Orcs aren't inhuman or alien. They live in the same cultural world as humans, dwarves and elves, so there is going to be overlap between the two. To make inhuman and alien orcs the orcs will need to be non-humanoid and actual aliens. But once you take that step and you make inhuman alien orcs they aren't orcs, they are inhuman aliens that someone has slapped the name orc on. "
Is this a conceit of your own world or this some broader opinion regarding the nature of the Orc archetype and their place in the gaming world. Go to Comment
Muro, I assume you are joking with that realism orcs comment, but divine-you are the self styled myth maker, could the Orcs not have been made by a different God or Gods, could they not have been imbued with a different divine purpose. Biology, if you want to bring science into sure, but how much biology do they need to share? Could be Possums versus Raccons here. Go to Comment