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Ancient Gamer's comment on 2006-01-10 12:33 PM
This is a good post that we all can learn from.

Thank you ScorpionJinx for reminding us to be civil. When you posted this we needed it most, though I dare say we have improved with time.

So... When you read something that you do not approve of and you want to flame, flame, flame the poster: Remember Jinx' words and... don't!

If this article had included tips on what to look for in a good post (and not only what not to say) it might have hit the top score. Without that addition this is still a solid 4.0.

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Ancient Gamer's comment on 2007-02-05 01:46 PM
Why, I believe you are right valadaar! ;) Go to Comment
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ScorpionJinx's comment on 2011-08-05 09:06 AM

I was not sure of how this piece was going to be received when I posted it. It is a pleasant surprise to come back several years later and see that people like it. Thank you. It makes coming back to the Citadel easier after being gone so long.

I have missed all of you and look forward to rejoining the community.

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Mourngrymn's comment on 2006-01-10 12:19 PM
Hey, this is a great thread.

I for one have posted my ideas up here specifically for critiquing. I am an adult and can use critisizm to work out the best. I for one do not mind people saying, hey that isn't good. But what I want in return is. I dont like it, but an idea to fix it would be this... or so and so.

Not to go into great detail, but a simple... hey this sounds cool would help.

I agree with this post 100%.

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Mourngrymn's comment on 2006-01-10 03:48 PM
I commented on this back when it was in the forums but have not voted so here you go for nice work. This definately should be taged next to me Respect for Submissions work. Go to Comment
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Renee_Strife's comment on 2006-01-10 12:26 PM
Not enough Detail.. or maybe the WTF part... not really sure where this would fall under

That is always one thing that normally gets me when I'm browsing ideas or what naught. There can always be a little more added in some areas, but what is also really bloody annoying is posting stuff that doesn't even pertain to what the idea is. Tangents are a big turn off for the rpers of any game I've noticed. I've seen many wonderful ideas go belly up due to this.

So.. yeah.. that's about it from me. Everything else hits the mark in my tired mind and hopefully I'm not repeating anything else that's already been said in a better way than that. Though the lack of sleep makes me unsure..... Go to Comment
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Pariah's comment on 2006-01-10 05:53 PM
Well, I think I read over this in the forums once, but reading over it again helps. I think this is possible the quickest any submission has been HoHed. Posted 20:17 AG comments on it 20:33. Go to Comment
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Murometz's comment on 2006-09-15 09:47 AM
Only voted Go to Comment
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Murometz's comment on 2011-01-25 11:36 AM

Good find, Ramhir! Short, sweet, and a must read.

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axlerowes's comment on 2012-02-23 04:24 PM

clear, well argued and fair

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valadaar's comment on 2007-02-05 11:16 AM
I think this one needs to come to the fore again. Go to Comment
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Wulfhere's comment on 2007-02-05 02:11 PM
Many people forget how much of our communication is non-verbal. This can lead to an author feeling hurt or confused, when the person posting the criticism had no intent to be mean-spirited.

Witty banter in a comment may be intended to be fun and casual, but the subject of the criticism may take it as belittling mockery. When you are critiquing someone's work, remember:

- They may never have written seriously before; in fact they may be a young teen just spreading their wings. Many of these fledgling authors don't realize that the ideas that they have just encountered (and been inspired by) are actually quite trite and clich├ęd. They haven't grown tired of world-conquering demons, mighty swords and malevolent necromancers.

- The author may not appreciate or understand their work's weaknesses. My first attempts at writing were very flawed, because I didn't know better. I was fortunate that the writing standards in gaming materials were much lower then; if I had been criticised as coldly as I have seen others torn apart, I doubt that I would have continued past that stage. Go to Comment
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Kassy's comment on 2012-06-11 08:30 PM
Only voted Go to Comment
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slartibartfast's comment on 2009-03-12 10:13 AM
Question on the etiquette of criticism: Many times, I come across a submission that is pretty good, but also serves as the springboard for new and different ideas in my mind. In some cases, the new thoghts are pretty far from the original author's intent. I'm uncertain whether it is appropriate to add these thoughts or ideas to the posting's comments, or to instead generate a new post with references to the original idea.

For example, "Nightwitch" comes up with an idea for a barbaric clan of vicious ogres with an irrational fear of small folk.

That's nice, I think to myself, but in terms of implementing this, a single halfling could put a halt to the entire adventure. What if, instead of small folk, the fear was of something even smaller; such as mice? Direct confrontation would leave the PCs heavily outmatched; the true challenge could be to discover the ogres' weakness before their plans to ransack a nearby town can be carried out. You know what? Forget the ogres; let's have the adversary be a single creature, like maybe a great dragon who hides an irrational fear of mice. He goes to great lengths to avoid the chance of contact with mice; building himself a lair up in the clouds themselves.

As you can see, the new thought is quite different from the intent of the original concept.

Would something like this be appropriate to still put into the comments, or should it go under a new post with a blurb saying where the original idea came from?

My apologies if this has been answered elsewhere; after going around and around on the advice posts, I couldn't find anything on this. Go to Comment
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Ramhir's comment on 2011-01-25 11:30 AM

I agree completely, ScorpionJinks. And even more completely with Wulfhere. Some of the earlier critiques would have shriveled me up completely. Thanks to both of you.

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Barbarian Horde's comment on 2006-03-03 09:55 AM
food? you people need help Go to Comment
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Barbarian Horde's comment on 2007-07-06 06:30 PM
Goodness, I did not know this would become so popular and grow like this. Thank you to everyone who has submitted recipes. Go to Comment
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Strolen's comment on 2011-08-05 07:23 PM
FIXED!! My bad. Go to Comment
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MoonHunter's comment on 2005-12-24 05:12 PM
from Curye on Inglysch, 15th c.

Tak cheryes & do out the stones & grynde hem wel & draw hem thorw a streynour & do it in a pot. & do therto whit gres or swete botere & myed wastel bred, & cast therto good wyn & sugre, & salte it & stere it wel togedere, & dresse it in disches; and set theryn clowe gilofre, & strewe sugre aboue.

The Modern Version:
2 lbs ripe red cherries
1 1/2 cups white wine
3/4 cup sugar
4 Tbsp butter
1 cup breadcrumbs
pinch of salt
flower heads of clove pinks (optional)
sugar, preferably raw sugar if available

Wash the cherries and remove the stems and stones. Puree the fruit in a blender with 1/2 cup of the wine and half the sugar. Add a little more wine as needed to get a smooth puree. Melt the butter in a saucepan and add the fruit puree, breadcrumbs, remaining wine, remaining sugar, and salt. Simmer, stirring often, until the puree is very thick. Pour into a serving bowl, cover, and let cool. The cherry pottage should be the consistency of a thick apple sauce. Refridgerate until served. Before serving, decorate the edge of the bowl with the clove pinks, if desired. Sprinkle the sugar over the dish.
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MoonHunter's comment on 2007-12-04 10:39 PM
A Recipe for Clay-Roasted Suckling Damn-Beast
by John Ringo Author of A Hymn before Battle

This submission may contain language objectionable to some readers.

The following is a recipe for Clay-Roasted Suckling Damn-Beast, a delicacy of the planet Marduk. We would like to thank Sergeant Adib Julian for his helpful suggestions and tips on preparing this appetizing dish. And this is just one of the hundreds of useful recipes in Interplanetary Fannys New Book: Intergalactic Cooking for the Mom on the Go! (Elease March 3428 AD, JB5Clone Publishing Enterprises).

Follow these steps for a delightful meal!

Step One: Get it
Since these are fiercely guarded by one or the other of the mated pair of damn-beasts, this is, naturally, the hardest part. The second hardest part is finding a damn-beast den. The dens are commonly found in rocky upland areas, but are occasionally found in holes beneath mature faux-teak trees. Whether they are beneath faux-teak or in rocky outcroppings, mature dens will only be found on or near hilltops that are out of reach of Marduk's notorious floods. The openings are relatively small for such a large carnivore, but the damn-beast can flatten itself oblately - and so must the damn-beast hunter.

Placing a group of guards outside the den, a single person, after removing his or her battle armor, can normally worm his or her way into the entrance. It requires a person who is not overlarge or heavyset and fundamentally unafraid of confined spaces.

Remember that the damn-beast is heavily armored in the frontal quarters. Since this is the only part our intrepid hunter is going to see, it is imperative that a high quality weapon be toted into the burrow. Although one might prefer a plasma rifle, there are countervailing arguments (you can't fit it in the burrow, it will kill and torch the kits you're planning on eating, the blast will probably bring down the roof and even if it doesn't the back-blast in that confined space will surely kill you). It is recommended that you use a bead pistol with armor piercing rounds. If such a weapon or ammunition is unavailable, the traditional Mardukan weapon of choice is an assegai, a short spear. However, uhmmm, Mardukans generally don't fit in the burrows so it's not so much traditional as what they would use - if they were stupid enough to try it and could fit in the burrow.

Burrow tunnels are normally 20-30 meters in length, about a meter and a half wide and a half meter high. They will have two to three twists in them and at least one "gooseneck" to catch runoff from Marduk's notorious rains. Note that the gooseneck will often contain standing water, but the intrepid hunter should be able to duck through it and get to air on the other side.

These burrows exist because the damn-beast is a natural prey of the HOLY-SHIT! beast. All items relating to preparation of Roast Suckling Damn-Beast can be used for Roast Suckling HOLY-SHIT! beast. However, the hunter is reminded that the HOLY-SHIT! beast is seven times the size of the damn-beast. Dress appropriately

Passing through these obstacles our hunter should shortly thereafter encounter the defending parent damn-beast. Remember, the damn-beast has no vulnerabilities on the front end. If using an automatic weapon, long, wildly uncontrolled bursts are the way to go. You won't have much time, so putting as many armor piercing rounds as possible on target is the only way to be around to write your own article. Care and decorum are not keynote words for the few seconds between Whats that smell? and Oh, THANK GOD thats over!

If you're using an assegai...drop me a note afterwards, will you? Not before, though. I'm required by Imperial Law to report suicide attempts.

Having dispatched the defending parent you will have to make your way past the carcass. Since it will more or less block the opening to the den, I leave the method up to the discretion of the hunter. (In my case, let me say two words: Big. Knife.).

After this you will have reached the horrible little bastards you are after. By this time they will be feeding on their deceased parent, snapping at you and generally making a real pain-in-the-ass of themselves. You can't kill the little bastards, (though if you ever try this, and succeed, you will understand my lack of kindness towards these horrible little snapping-turtle m*&^%$#@$%^&g bastards) because the cook wants them "as fresh as possible". (The stupid m*&^%$#@%^&r. See him trying this?)

Proceed to pick them up and put them in the sack you brought... Look, if you just brought these instructions with you and didn't read it in advance it's not my fault you didn't bring a sack! Proceed to...oh, I already said that. And I suppose you forgot really thick, leather or synth-armor gloves, right? Well, if you did, you're in trouble. These little c*&^%$#@%rs can BITE.

Once you have them in the sack, you are more or less done. Well, except for turning around (I did mention this requires a small person, right? Right?) and crawling back through the, you know, the debris. Dragging a sack. Full of screaming, clawing little m*&^%$#@cking demons. But you're more or less done. With step one.

Step two: Kill the little c*&^%$#@%rs.
The cook will probably want to do this him (or her) self until he (or she) tries it with one. And he (or she) will go on and on about not disturbing them and proper bleeding, etc.

Grab your gloves. Take a big cleaver...

Step Three: Skin the little c*&^%$#@%rs.
Let the cook skin them. The scum gets all over your hands and stinks to high heaven. You already took a couple of showers and a bath to get momma off of you and you don't need to take a couple of more.

Step Four: Prep the little c*&^%$#@%rs.
Stuff with barley rice and Mardukan taters. If the barley rice is seasoned with jcsauce, it adds piquancy. (Piquancy here refers to the fact that jcsauce is slightly hotter than pure capsicum.)

Step Five Cook:
Wrap in leaves (fire-tree leaves if available) and cover with a thick coating of wet clay. Cook in hot fire and maintain fire while cooking. Serve whole on a bed of barley rice surrounded by sliced kangoes.

Tastes like frog-legs.

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BBQ World?

       By: Redgre

"The world has an immovable dark red sun in the centre of the sky that produces very little light. The heat is totally unbearable and the aroma of delicious cooking meat is in the air. To look around it appears as though you are surrounded by giant black mountains with no vegetation anywhere. The ground is soft and an oily liquid flows into your footprints. Travelling reveals nothing else."

Any character without some resistance to fire or heat is slowly being cooked. The ground if you haven't guessed it is the cooked meat.

I've wanted this world to be part of a dimensional hopping "chase". I thought maybe to populate this world with giant carnivorous beetles or perhaps this could be a "Nirvana" for deceased or living (but dimension travelling) fire dragons.

Perhaps I've just been grilling a little too much meat or perhaps there are some great ideas out there on how to spruce up the place. Any suggestions?

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