The posts come clear when you read the suggested submissions with it, but as a stand alone post things mentioned in the other need clarification in this post as well. I hadn't read the two others so the following things came up.
-If little is truly known about this cult, then why are they such a high target of violence? From their description the only thing against them is their cryptic beliefs that nobody really understands. They don't do anything but sleep so why are they so 'evil' that they can never escape prosecution.
-The tears need to be expanded on too. A) Why would anybody want to buy their tears in the first place? B) If they are always having to hide and any group is quickly destroyed by those that hate them then how would they sell their tears and who would buy them?
Now, following the links I begin to understand the power of the tears so you should lightly explain the tears a little bit and link to them inside your post so we know there is more. Same with the reason they are hated. Since this is THE submission for the Dreamer's Cult these things should definately be at least mentioned with links providing the in depth explanation.
All together they make perfect sense, but this one as is leaves too many questions untouched expecting that we will go through and read all the suggested without hints in the submission. Once fixed it will get a solid 4 from me! Go to Comment
I must say! The Dreamer Cult has surely inspired a lot of Strolenites! I love what all of you guys come up with, but I feel somewhat partial and thus I won't vote for what you and Roack and all them others create in this vein.
You should really team up with Roack though. I bet you guys could forge some wonderful stuff together, like Cheka Man and Maggot used to. Go to Comment
Are the Dream Nector addicts on the side of the order and their attacks are coordinated or are their attacks something that just happen and the Order plays them up? From the sound of it the Order incites these addict riots.
These poor Dream Cultists sure do get a pretty bad rap just for supplying 'drugs.' Can't just sell them on a street corner so they must have some sort of underground distribution network or something. I keep looking for more of a reason for everybody to hate the cult so much. Go to Comment
I think fear is a slightly generic answer though. If they know it is the drug that makes the people crazy, not the Cult (yes, they provide it the drug dealers and suppliers are bad), but it is a choice made by the people that get addicted to the drug. They want what the drug provides.
Equate it to the theive's guild. People know they are there, they rob people, cause hardship in the city, but do the people attack and fire bomb them? You must admit that theives are much more active then these cultists which all they want to do is sleep. There is a logic hump that I can't get over. I need to justify everything and this just doesn't get me all the way there.
Now, if you tell me that the Dream Cult addicts people on purpose, break into homes to drug people, kidnaps, maybe just spreading the drug over a crowd by a Cultist...now that would go a long way to justify to me why people hate and fear them so much. But just believing some wierdness and selling some drugs to people that want them (addicted or not, they want them, just like current times) doesn't make me want to burn them.
It would also make more sense that, once addicted, the users would be 'inducted' into the dream cult and not have to pay for the stuff anymore. More cult members is good I would guess? Go to Comment
Maybe we need to stop looking at it as an organisation of drug-dealers, and see what it is: a religious group.
But there is more:
- "all the other gods were merely his slaves" is a powerful insult. If you believe your god is one of the top guys, and somebody claims it is just a stray slave, that can make the people... angry.
- While this may not be readily admitted, the Cult has clearly distinct powers no one else has access to. They may be actually right... on the other hand, their powers do not make them much formidable in combat. They make a good target.
- Lastly, the gods themselves would likely be not above supporting this movement. Go to Comment
Once I noticed this, I had to check it out. I must say that I like it (I found it through your forum link by the way). Your writing is excellent and the organization is very useful (plotwise) and, I must add, realistic. Nothing like sound logic and excellent material to get me in a jolly good mood. Go to Comment
Sorry it took me so long to reply to the questions about my own group.
Okay, the reasons why the Order exist have pretty mcuh been covered. Fear, the insult (persieved or otherwise) of someone saying your god(s) are only slaves/lackeys, and the fact that the Nectar gives back something that the gods themselves took away.
But fear is the only one that the Order really needs to play up to get its job done. Tell the people that this group threatens their ancient and 'rightous' way of life and you'll have people flocking to them, escpecially with some of the "reasons" that the Order tends to conjure up.
The 'addict muggings' are (usually) just something that gets played up by the Order, ocasionally when they don't get enough of them happening and they neeed to speed it up they'll have some fake witnesses saying Poor Old Mrs. McCormick got attacked by an addict and killed the poor widow. But it isn't really the Dreamers, or anyone addicted to the tears, that do these muggings, it's generally just a mugging. And again, it's just fear that the Order needs to use, if you get the people afraid that their precious child will get attacked next, and then they find out where those vile muggers are hiding, well let's just say you'd hate to be living within a block of them.
And lastly, this Order does have the support of the clergy, openly or not, because like Manfred said, "the gods themselves would likely be not above supporting this movement." Go to Comment
This is extremely good, imnsho. It's a creative use not of the shards, but rather, of the concentrated wrongness that is the Desert of Divine Despair. Remember, this is a place where not one, but two Gods laid on the edge of death.
It may not be in line with the quest, but I can't be complimentary enough to the creative use of the story surrounding the quest. Go to Comment
Well, by itself I think this is really a brilliant post. The difficulty of creating the mixture, along with the aforementioned maladies from excess or even moderate use definately outweight the massive bonuses granted by the potion.
On the other hand, as a quest item, it isn't very Shardy, and I may be wrong here but I think that the shards would be metallic in nature. But, being the weapons of the gods, I think that distinction would be up to SnO Go to Comment
OK - in of itself a fun little balm with plenty of potential for creating plot complications - kudos for that
One big question though - Why do the Wild Elves made this stuff?
After all it's quite difficult to make (how do you ensure that your goat eats only the right plants and nothing else), and it takes a long time (goats can live for several years). So what do the elves get in return?
Pretty good but downgraded it a little because it's hard to see why it would be made?
No, I don't really think of it as one of the shards of the Storm, it is more a 'remenant' of the Blades of the Mad One. When hey shattered they kinda disintigrated and evaporated, forming the Desert/Madlands. The rest of the potion is to slow, if not stop the madness that sets in after drinking the water that flows through the lands.
I had this idea flying around the back of my mind for a while but couldn't ever think of a way to make it make sense, when I reread the Shards of he Storm/Desert of Divine Despair threads I kinda figured out what I was missing.
Why do the Wild Elves made this stuff? Because they're elves, they have a rather low breeding rate and when one of their hunters gets gored on the hunt they need a way to heal him without having to drag one of their healers around with them all the time. They know the side effects of drinking from the waters that flow through the madlands and as such only use them sparingly, and even then only in a diluted form. Go to Comment