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Barbarian Horde's comment on 2006-05-06 09:59 PM
...ironically, I came across the dai kiri pages while researching person-to-group hand-to-hand combat. Odd...

~shrug~ Figured I'd toss in a little bit of commentary and analysis from my RL martial studies. Since by the time I'm done with the broom, I'll probably sound like a majorly-retentive @$$hole, I figure I should probably add my real views now; I am deeply and truly impressed by the amount of thought, cultural development, and backstory which has gone into these pieces, and honestly feel that you have created a true classic, whether applied to fiction or RPG gaming.

...now, the broom...

>these brooms usually had three very long,
>thin nails driven...

This would brutally split the wood. The standard technique is to burn the hole with the heated iron rod which reinforces the piece.

>Mixed in with the supple bristles of the
>broom handle, were long needles about half
>the length of the bristles. These needled
>were loosely attached to the wood, and
>thinly feathered so that they would fly in
>a straight line.

The problems of dirt and entanglement were brought up earlier. Usually, IRL, flick-darts are fired by being held in a tube which is then, well... flicked. You might wanna bore a hole in the shaft, where the broomhead detaches, and cover the opening in ricepaper - strong enough to hold it in, thin enough to let the darts fly with a good flick.

...incidentally, a similar modern technique is used with a sharpened pencil and a wooden flute, for unarmed ranged combat with no conspicuous posessions... but that's another story.

>Attached to the Broom handle, was a curved
>blade concealed within the reinforced
>broom-head.

In "peasant rebellion" martial arts, "blade" usually means "blood" usually means "evidence at the scene" - bujinkan and related arts, arguably the "gold standard" of peasant insurrection, have a wide array of techniques for repeatedly snapping a neck which incorporate return to a concealed position and dragging off the body for disposal of evidence in a smooth, fluid motion, whereas the heart-removal techniques (yes, they do exist) tended to be reserved - along with the corresponding "mess in the marketplace" - for the soldiers of the nobility.

Historically, the human heart has been an excellent way to count bounty.

...now that I've got y'all looking at me like I'm some sort of blinking psychopath, I'll just summarize with the notion that a trail of blood leading to the guard's body has been historically viewed as a very quick way to lose one's "underground movement" status. The usual remedy is to use some sort of padded stub, stud, or knob, suitable for seperating ribs and sealing arteries without spilling the blood inside. How you resolve this issue is up to you.

...also, one historical development which may interest you was the concealed weighted chain; a section was carved out of an item - often a sword or knife handle - a chain was coiled inside, and the pommel was carefully weighted to provide a ready, concealed manruki-gusari, footmans flail, or host of similar concealed weaponry.

...it just so happens that lead melts at low enough temperature that it will not burn through wood.

I have no idea how you will adress these issues, or whether any of this has been useful to you. Nonetheless, please let me congratulate you on an intricate and well-thought-out contribution to the global rpg community - it's a fascinating storyline and some good, solid items to go with it. You've upped the bar of creativity for everyone. Go to Comment
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MoonHunter's comment on 2006-02-28 10:36 PM
It has pretty much been said. The post has its own merits. While I am having a little trouble visualizing parts of it, I get the gist.

This weapon would also need martial training to be really effective. Of course, this could be done quite easily... Capoeira being incorporated into dances and most Karate-te (Okinawan ) peasant agricultural weapons (which were later folded into other Karate-dos in the region). So martial masters are hiding amongst the shop keepers.

Above ALL I would like to see a Dai Kiri Society Post, as well as some other related posts (martial arts system maybe?) Go to Comment
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MoonHunter's comment on 2006-02-28 10:37 PM
It has pretty much been said. The post has its own merits. While I am having a little trouble visualizing parts of it, I get the gist.

This weapon would also need martial training to be really effective. Of course, this could be done quite easily... Capoeira being incorporated into dances and most Karate-te (Okinawan ) peasant agricultural weapons (which were later folded into other Karate-dos in the region). So martial masters are hiding amongst the shop keepers.

Above ALL I would like to see a Dai Kiri Society Post, as well as some other related posts (martial arts system maybe?)

Also Please Link this to the Other Dai Kiri post. (And link it back). Use the Suggest a submissions it is really useful that way. Go to Comment
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Iain's comment on 2006-02-28 11:30 AM
Only voted Go to Comment
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Nobody's comment on 2006-02-28 04:54 AM
Ok, guys. I am extremely aprehensive about releasing this to the public. Notably, I feel like my Purse of the Dai Kiri has set the standard for such submissions of mine, and the only direction to go is down.

So, lots of constructive criticism. I feel like I put in too much flavor text, but I can't be sure, and I feel like I need more oddities, but I can't think of any. And well, im just plain nervous.

Anyway, hope everybody likes it. Go to Comment
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Nobody's comment on 2006-02-28 06:26 AM
Actually, I am sure that the Dai Kiri would love that. Outlawing brooms. Not only would the military police look ridiculous, but they would look even more oppressive than usual.

Could you imagine the outrage of people everywhere if brooms were outlawed? Shop keepers would have to worry about dirty, dirt covered floors. Bakeries and Meet Markets would have HUGE infestation problems. In short, it would be outrageous for everybody.

The Dai Kiri aren't just around to beat up the bad guys. They also specialize in making them look bad. Nothing would please the Dai Kiri better than for the Military police to look like the tyrants that they really are by passing a ridiculous law. Go to Comment
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Nobody's comment on 2006-02-28 10:56 AM
Aw c'mon, thats not fair. If it deserves a five, give it a five. Go to Comment
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Nobody's comment on 2006-03-01 10:32 AM
I know that you all want the Dai Kiri Society Posted, but at the same time, I am not sure wether or not this is a good Idea. I think that some of the originality in my posts involves the fact that I also reveal something about the Dai Kiri with each Item.

Frankly, I don't have the Dai Kiri completely built yet, but even if I did, I would rather find ways to make each piece interesting, than to clump it into one interesting whole, and have each part lost it's novelty.

I don't know though. What do you guys think. Go to Comment
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Scrasamax's comment on 2006-02-28 03:06 PM
Only voted Go to Comment
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Cheka Man's comment on 2006-02-28 11:42 AM
Me likes. They can't ban brooms without looking idiotic in front of the people and in front of the royals, who would be angry if their palace filled with filth. Go to Comment
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Michael Jotne Slayer's comment on 2006-02-28 06:15 AM
I like this but I am not sure about a few issues and thus I question the need of the broom. For starters it's obviously a great camouflage, but soon everebody will be alerted about this new danger.
Then why allow brooms at all? Brooms would be outlawed just like swords and such. This is my only question about this post.
Otherwise I enjoyed it greatly, I will wait with my vote until after I am more enlightened in Broom Lore. Go to Comment
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Michael Jotne Slayer's comment on 2006-02-28 06:34 AM
It's not likely, but it could be that if the broom is outlawed "the people" would turn against the Dai Kiri since it's "their faulth". I would not be to happy to see piles of dust, food etc gather up in my supermarked. Who to blame?
That depends on a lot of things, and the door can always be opened both ways.
Anyway, this is a very elegantly set up item with a nice execution.
In my opinion you should not worry about the flavor tid-bits, they portray the broom nicely. I still feel that something is missing though, but I just can't figure out what exactly.

Splendid work Nobody, I produce a 4.0 Go to Comment
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Michael Jotne Slayer's comment on 2006-03-01 06:01 AM
No, buy smart, buy S-Mart:) Go to Comment
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Mourngrymn's comment on 2006-02-28 03:21 PM
While I didn't vote a 5/5 I did vote 4.5/5. Where it lost the .5 points is rather difficult to say.

I for one enjoyed this a lot. Having studies marital arts for over a decade now and having had to study okinawan weapons I have use with common items turned ot weapons. From horse sturips to an oar.

This smacks of realism in our own history if a bit odd to say the least. I read where Mike asked about the guards banning brooms and I agree with Nobody that it would seem ludicris to the public and be an outright slap to anyone intelligent ot ban the use of a broom. For one, not only is banning a household item stupid (for lack of a better term) but civil services who clean and maintain the strets would have to find something else to clean with.

Now, why I reduced it down by .5. I did not feel the use of the needles within the broom, especially the poison. I mean, ok you add needles to an item you will be sweeping with that are designed to fly off. I don't see how they would stay attached when being used as well as the poison dripping out or getting clogged by dirt and dust. It is an interesting addition and the whole fear thing is perfect.

That is my vote and I think this is a wonderful submission that is both unique and fresh. Go to Comment
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Mourngrymn's comment on 2006-03-01 07:41 AM
This! Is my BOOM stick! Go to Comment
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Mourngrymn's comment on 2006-03-01 07:42 AM
It was called Kobuto... the martial study of peasant weapons. Not the real definition but thats what it was. Go to Comment
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Mourngrymn's comment on 2006-03-01 07:43 AM
? You voted twice? Go to Comment
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Mourngrymn's comment on 2006-03-01 10:38 AM
Write up who they were in a society submission. Then group everything together via the codex. It is a wonderful way to get all of your related submissions into one section but at the same time be individual submissions to gain their own respect. Go to Comment
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Dream's comment on 2006-02-28 07:18 PM
Outstanding submission. Almost as good as the purse. The purse was just a smidge better because it was totally simple yet truly unimaginable. Nobody but Nobody thought of it before! (Sorry.) This broom is similar to the Japanese "War Fan" concept (a folding metal fan that worked well as a nightstick) and is not beyond previous imagination. It also is more complex.

Still, the back-story is, as usual, top-quality, and it adds cumulatively to the previous submission. Can't wait for the next creation from Dr. No. Go to Comment
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Pariah's comment on 2006-02-28 06:52 PM
Great job, I loved it. Do they sell them at Wal-Mart? Go to Comment
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