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Barbarian Horde's comment on 2006-09-07 11:05 AM
wont let me vote btw. Go to Comment
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manfred's comment on 2006-09-04 03:37 AM
A nice set of ideas. Could be easily turned into a generator, so if you want to, feel free.

(Oh, and there are a few typos inside. But that's no wonder by that amount of text.) Go to Comment
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manfred's comment on 2006-09-07 01:37 PM
A generator is indeed in the works, there is already a fully working version at http://generating.strolen.com/gen/charback.html . Have fun with it. Go to Comment
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manfred's comment on 2006-09-07 01:39 PM
Oh, and: the "Other Race" option is inside, just not very likely to be generated with a 5% chance. ;) Go to Comment
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manfred's comment on 2006-11-11 05:07 AM
And for the record, a Citadelised version exists as well: http://www.strolen.com/random.php?page=charback


BUMP! Go to Comment
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manfred's comment on 2007-09-25 08:27 AM
I didn't notice any attack here, but for some reason legalese mumble tends to be very aggravating, not to mention any kind of hint of 'unoriginal' work. I've carried those shoes a few times as well, so I know how both claims can annoy. Please, don't get discouraged, and stay around.


Aside: we can get pretty harsh sometimes, but we don't delete here submissions based on moodswings, or what-ifs. Not ever. We don't want to lose anyone's work. Go to Comment
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MoonHunter's comment on 2007-09-25 11:56 AM
Odd double submission, so to be different, I am deleting the first one. Go to Comment
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MoonHunter's comment on 2007-09-25 12:16 PM
Now as a member:

Of this kind of chart, I have seen better, but I have seen worse too. This one does not cover the areas I like to see, but in concept it is a good sub. Go to Comment
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MoonHunter's comment on 2007-09-25 11:57 AM
Starting out: You both were quite accusational. While not a direct attack, you implied one. Please be a bit more careful.

First, copyright is not the concern of members. It is the concern of admins and site owner. So if you have a concern, bring it up to the admins in the apporpriate forums or via PM.

Second, copyright (in the US where the server is) is only enforced (listed as violated) when it infringes upon the value of the work in question. So the question we ask is, "does this submission (in its limited form) mean fewer people will buy the original work?" A question that can not be answered, as it can be argued that because they saw this submission they might be more inclined to buy the complete work.

(In the case of the work sheet, it means less textbooks would be sold for those useful pages. Now if the professor bothered to type in his own list of formulas, even if based loosely upon the text book, there would be less chance of infringement).

Aside: The source was listed as derived. I would of liked to see the original link/ source to properly credit them, but okay a google search find it.


If the work devalues the name or works of a copyright work, then the work could also a source of contention. Thus the Sex books for D20 created issues as they reduced the value of the D20 properties (despite the open license at the time) and opened the owners of said property up to litigation (as they can be listed in any suit brought and they have deeper pockets). And notice that nobody paid attention to that net book until someone published it in form (and oddities of perception....)

Now it was totally pirated and presented as a substitution for buying the book, then it is obvious agress.

If every site that used elements of a copyrighted work were sued, most gaming sites on the internet (except those using D20s open license material and only that material) would be shut down.

You notice how many are still open?

There is no money in it, as it would cost them more in legal fees that it would be worth. And the bad PR would put a dent in the company's retail listing, as gamers would go "well ptuh on you dude."

Having worked in the industry, most game companies see fan sites as helpful advertising for their game systems. Now if we were making money at this, there might be a concern. But since we are not and everyone who is truly interested in the material will get around to buying actual product, it is good for them. Go to Comment
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Cheka Man's comment on 2006-09-03 03:33 PM
Another really good entry that must have taken a lot of time to do. 5 out of 5. Go to Comment
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Ancient Gamer's comment on 2007-09-25 06:53 AM
Hey Mourngrymn, I have walked a mile in the shoes you are wearing now. :)

Not the exact same issues, but the same feelings.

My advice? Take a break. Enjoy life. Then, when your anger has calmed and this experience is but a distant memory, come back and we shall all create anew!

Good luck,
~AG. Go to Comment
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Mourngrymn's comment on 2006-09-03 12:15 PM
Chart 1a: Birth Community
This is designed to be a generic type of location that your character was born into regardless of their race. Most characters will be born into their own communities, whether they are small villages or huge cities. But some fortunate, and not so fortunate, characters will be born or raised in a community not of their own race. This could cause different outlooks to their world of influence that normally wouldn’t occur.

01 – 05) Other Race: This character was either born in a community of another race, or they were orphaned and raised by another race. Their view on the world could possibly be that of their foster parents instead of their typical racial views. Roll again to see what size of community they were raised in and roll on Chart 1b to see what racial community they were raised in.
06 – 10) Nomadic Community: Small families of one or two that roam the countryside living off the land, rarely entering settled communities. This could be because of a social stigma of being nomadic or tribal in nature or other reasons.
11 – 20) Structured Community: This could be a religious, monastic, or military community. This is a close knit organized community focusing on a single ideal. The religious or monastic community could be they were born or raised in a temple or church while a military style community could be a campground or frontier type of encampment. Usually ranges to no more than 500 people.
21 – 35) Frontier Community: Life in an out of the way outpost, homestead, or forgotten village can be quiet or dangerous depending on the environment. It is usually self sufficient and rarely found by the outside world. Usually consists of no more than four or five families.
36 – 50) Hamlet Community: A small settlement consisting of farmers, hunters and gatherer type families. Population consists of around 300 to 400 people.
51 – 65) Village Community: Larger than that of a hamlet but similar in resources. This type of community supports craftsmen of worth. Needed workers other than farmers are usually available for work. Population ranges from 400 to 900 people.
66 – 74) Small Town: Larger than a village it is run in a similar manner, the only difference is that its population or location is enough to have it listed on most maps of note. Caravans could come through the town because of a resource or its location. Population ranges from 900 to 2,000 people.
75 – 84) Large Town: More beneficial than a smaller town they are regional centers for growth, resources, and craftsmen. Population ranges from 2,000 to 5,000 people. Often times the population is higher due to people passing through or staying for a short period of time.
85 – 89) Small City: With up to 15,000 residents, not including visitors, a small city is big enough to support a small army in time of need to defend their countryside or come to the aid of their rulers.
90 – 94) Large City: This is a dominant city in the countries landscape. They support your usual residents of laborers, farmers, and craftsmen, but also educators, doctors, multiple guilds and religious factions as well. Population ranges from 15,000 to 30,000.
95 – 100) Metropolis: The largest of the cities, usually only associated with the capital of a kingdom or country. Most countries can not support a lot of these types of cities due to population or geographic diversity. They have a ruling leadership on hand, military defense, laborers, entertainers, craftsmen, guild and religious centers, and more. Population begins at 30,000 in these centers of population and can be much higher. Go to Comment
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Mourngrymn's comment on 2006-09-03 12:17 PM
Chart 1b: Racial Community
This is the racial community of a character born outside of their own race. I have added it here for both my setting as well as a generic setting as well. As I use it for my character creation it is not suited for others who play different games. I hope it is diverse enough for other setting use. If the same race is rolled as the character either choose one or roll randomly again.


01 – 15) Derevo/ Elven: Derevo/ Elves tend to center their communities on nature and forested regions far away from the bustle of human settlements.
16 – 30) Gison/ Dwarven: Gison/ Dwarves tend to center their communities in the mountain regions.
31 – 45) Human: Humans have a more rural background and focus around living in communities of cities.
46 – 60) Keirn/ Half-Human Race: Keirn/ Half-Human races tend to focus in differing areas. Some are centered on colder climates while others tend to have a hard time finding a community to fit into.
61 – 75) Lemiean/ Human: Lemiean/ Human tend to center around a desert climate region, occasionally nomadic but often in homes of mud and adobe.
76 – 90) Olwynn/ Gnome: Olwynn/ Gnome tend to be isolation, xenophobic, or solitary people. They prefer their own kind and privacy over function.
91 – 100) Sslassti/ Lizardmen: Sslassti/ Lizardmen tend to have their homes around swampland environments, some deserts areas, and occasional heavy forested regions. Go to Comment
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Mourngrymn's comment on 2006-09-03 12:19 PM
Chart 2: Family and their Status
This is a character’s station in life, as they were born, whether it was from poverty or prosperity. This determines what type of heritage the character has, the birthing order, as well as any funds that the character might have to start out with. This does not mean that the character is destined to stay in this social class. Decisions made in life may raise them up the social ladder of prosperity, or make them plummet to poverty. Roll on the chart below to get your families social status, and then roll on Chart 3 to determine their Economic Status. This roll may contradict but twist the rolls to make them work.

For instance if you roll on the chart below and roll and get Nobility. Then your family is nobles of some station. If you roll on the next chart and you roll Poor, then your family was noble that have fallen down on hard times due to bad choices or blackmail. I also gave one word descriptions of what type of status quo fit into that particular category.

01 – 20) Lower Class: Homeless, Street person, Beggars
21 – 30) Middle Lower Class: Indentured Servitude
31 – 48) Upper Lower Class: Servant or Retainer
49 – 70) Lower Middle Class: Farmer
71 – 78) Middle Class: Employees, General Laborer
79 – 84) Upper Middle Class: Small Merchant
85 – 90) Lower Upper Class: Entrepreneur/ Town Officials
91 – 94) Middle Upper Class: Rich Merchant
95 – 97) Upper Lower Class: Minor Royalty
98 – 00) Nobility: Royalty Go to Comment
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Mourngrymn's comment on 2006-09-03 01:02 PM
Chart 3: Economic Status
This is your families’ personal information regarding wealth. What type of economic stability they had during your time with them.

01 - 10) Orphaned: You do not know who your parents were. Roll again to find out who raised you.
11 - 19) Refugee: Your family fled some catastrophe or war. They own nothing and had little income.
20 - 45) Poor: Your family had no money. They may have had to beg or steal for food. They own nothing of value.
46 - 70) Minor Wealth: Your family owns a small dwelling or can make due without concern. They had little but extra at the end of the day.
71 - 80) Wealthy: Your family owns at least one dwelling and possibly others to include property and businesses. Income exceeds basic daily needs.
81 - 85) Religious: You were raised as a part of a religious community. While your family did not have an excess in income, you had little in the desire for food, clothing, and learning.
86 - 90) Arcane: Same as the above but listed as being raised with a magical community providing your resources and learning. Does not mean you have arcane ability.
91 - 95) Wealth Unimportant: Economic status is hard to determine. Perhaps you were raised on the frontier and lived as hunters, farmers, or trappers. You had little in the way of excess but did not want for food or shelter.
96 - 100) Military: You were raised by someone in the military. Little direct income but your needs were provided for as was your learning. Go to Comment
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Mourngrymn's comment on 2006-09-03 01:07 PM
Chart 4: Social Standing
How was your family viewed by other people in the community?

01 – 10) Outsiders: Your family were settled or refugees to this community and therefore new to the area. Few people knew your family history and this could have caused some distrust.
11 – 15) Criminal: You or your family was seen as criminals or guilty of some crime. Whether wrongly convicted or not. Either way you are treated with suspicion or poorly.
16 – 20) Slaves: Your family was considered property of another. While your family could have been pampered by their owners they were still property and had little to no free will. Only choose this if slavery is accepted in the community. If not choose another or roll again.
21 – 45) Laborers: Your family was considered laborers or workers. They reported to another for their work and were given payment on the whim of another.
46 – 65) Merchants: Your family had a skilled trade or was probably merchants, possibly weavers, smiths, cobblers, or more complex.
66 – 75) Positive Religious, Arcane, or Military Affiliation: Your family was tied closely with that of a chosen group and therefore the community respected your family for their work.
76 – 85) Negative Religious, Arcane, or Military Affiliation: Your family was tied closely with that of a chosen group and therefore the community had little respect for your family for their work.
86 – 95) Upper Class: Your family was considered to be of the upper crust of their community.
96 – 100) Nobility: Your family was considered to be at the very top of their community. Go to Comment
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Mourngrymn's comment on 2006-09-03 01:07 PM
Chart 5: Private Ethics
Your family had ethics and morals that impacted your relation on the community in general. Whether these ethics and morals were complete public knowledge or kept private and hidden is up to you to decide.

01 – 25) Neutral: Your family chose no sides in any conflict and opted to stay out of any debate that would cause friction with their reputation.
26 – 50) Fair: Your family held to their agreements and contracts and would not break any binding word or moral.
51 – 75) Good: Your family upheld the law and the community spirit, viewing it as part of their right to the rest of the community to be an example of involvement.
76 – 90) Untrustworthy: Your family was known for breaking agreements and contracts on several occasions with little remorse for the outcome.
91 – 100 Bad: Your family was often seen as taking actions against the community. Whether this was outright harm, or caught many times in criminal acts that were public. Go to Comment
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Mourngrymn's comment on 2006-09-03 01:14 PM
Chart 6: Reputation

01 – 40) Unknown: Your family has no preconceived character with their community. Little is known about them and little is questioned.
41 – 55) Good: Your family is known and has a generally good reputation and is liked by others in the community.
56 – 65) Outstanding: Your family is well known and liked throughout the community and is considered to be an upstanding family name.
66 – 75) Black Sheep: In general your family is well liked but it is also well known throughout the community that there are a few dark sheep of the family that are less than upstanding citizens and are disreputable. Perhaps it is you.
76 – 90) Poor: Your family is treated with occasional contempt but has a few members who display ethical and decent behavior pulling your family name out of the mud on occasion.
91 – 100) Bad: Others in your community treat your family with open content. Each member in your family is assumed to be disreputable and dishonest regardless of their true morals. Go to Comment
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Mourngrymn's comment on 2006-09-03 01:36 PM
Chart 7: Ancestors
Every family has its members who are remembered throughout the test of the family line. They could be the favored son, or the gifted daughter, the crazed uncle or the insane aunt. Roll a 1D4 to determine how many ancestors are remembered in your family. Most of these members are no longer around to sway or influence other members of the family. The crazed aunt that everyone expects to pass on the following year may continue to baffle others by staying in good health and bringing chaos to the family name.

01-49) None
50 – 55) Forgotten: Your ancestors are either unknown or forgotten. This is close to have no ancestors of note, but as time goes on the truth of one member may come out and revealed later on.
56 – 60) Immigrant: Your ancestor was a settler from another land which little is known about it.
61 – 62) Artisan: An ancestor was an artist of unmatched skill who left a legacy of excellence.
63 - 64) Arsonist: An ancestor was a well known firestarter, having burned down large portions of cities in their youth. In those cities your family name is looked at with scorn.
65 – 66) Merchant: An ancestor was a successful business owner that continues to exist today and prosper.
67 – 69) Merchant: An ancestor was not a very successful business owner and their downfall brought ruin to the family due to their actions.
70 – 72) Priest: A member of your family became a very reputable priest of a particular religion.
73 – 75) Arcanist: A member of you family became a reputable user of the arcane arts.
76 – 77 Magic; An ancestor created or owned an item of specific and well known ability. It may or may not be a family heirloom. In Hewdamia magic items can no longer be created so this is a big honor to have a family member be one to have created one of the lasting relics of old..
78 – 80) Victorious Hero: Your family produced a great leader, warrior, or military officer who was victorious in a great battle.
81 – 83) Defeated Hero: Your family produced a great leader, warrior, or military officer who was defeated in a large well documented battle.
84 - 86) Founder: Your family had a member who founded a community that still thrives to this day.
87 – 89) False Hero An ancestor made up a story of their life of a great accomplishment that was later found to be false. A dark mark followed them and your family ever since.
90 – 91) Exiled An ancestor was once a person of high standing who lost their power and was banished from their homeland.
92 – 93) Rebel An ancestor was known to have had a hand in an open rebellion against a ruling government. Whether it failed or succeeded is determined by the player and the DM.
94 – 95) Traitor: An ancestor is known to have betrayed their community or their government.
96 – 97) Cultist: An ancestor is known to have had an affiliation with a dark god or cult.
98) Villain An ancestor was a villain of some reputation who causes strife throughout the lands.
99) Prophet: An ancestor was a focus or seer of some great omen or prophecy.
100) Divine Touched: Your family is rumored to have had a member who ascended to an immortal status in some way. Go to Comment
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Mourngrymn's comment on 2006-09-03 02:29 PM
Chart 8: Childhood events
Some events in a character early childhood could have had lasting effects on their future development and their personality. It could help shape them or hinder them emotionally.

01 - 15) Survived Danger: Perhaps they were kidnapped as a child or attacked by an animal.
16 - 30) Survived Danger to the Community: Possibilities include, flood, famine, plague, or war struck when they were young.
31 - 45) Long Journey: Character went on an eventful travel when they were young either a one or two way travel ending up where they grew up perhaps.
46 - 55) Witness: Saw a horrible crime or event when a child.
56 - 60) Astronomical Event: Born under strange sign in the sky, a blood full moon, an unknown comet, a meteor shower or other such unusual event.
61 - 65) Personal Event: You had a brush with greatness, whether it was meeting a king or well known legendary knight or warrior, contacted by a divine entity or other worldly being.
66 - 75) Refugee: Due to war or some other disaster that ruined your community, you became a refugee.
76 - 85) Death: You lost a parent or other significant family member during your childhood.
86 - 95) Illness: You contacted a lingering sickness or developed a defect.
96 - 100) Injured: You were injured which can range from burns, scars, broken bones, or even more serious defects. Go to Comment
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