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Neptune's Court
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manfred's comment on 2005-07-09 02:17 AM
Nice, but has brought to me a question... how do they write below water? There are several options - a special ink and paper that react together fast enough; acid or similar stuff; or simply etching into the recording item... bringing also the question what is "paper" in this case. A dead plant, or one still kept alive? A Living Library underwater could be an interesting setting, too. Go to Comment
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CaptainPenguin's comment on 2005-07-09 01:29 PM
But, Moon, why would they bother?
It'd probably be easier for the merfolk just to carve the message than to have to magic up parchment and such. Go to Comment
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CaptainPenguin's comment on 2005-07-09 03:35 PM
I still don't see why they would even learn of this innovation. There must be an easier way.
Faw, maybe it's just my prejudice against "quick-and-easy" magic. Go to Comment
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MoonHunter's comment on 2005-07-09 12:45 PM
Magic?

I would think it is a parchment of some kind, made by a combination of static magics and good process. The parchment would be treated to respond to the pen (a treated stylus). It would be a binary response creating magic underwater printing. Go to Comment
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MoonHunter's comment on 2005-07-09 03:34 PM
Um. Have you ever tried to carve a message... in stone?

Having learned Cuneiform and discovering the annoyances associated with clay tablets, and having tried to carve stone, I would stick to either magic pens or some binary technology. Go to Comment
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MoonHunter's comment on 2005-07-10 10:29 AM
CP- It does not have to be magic. You could go the tech route. Magic would just be easier (and depending on your world... more appropriate).

Scras- True, as far as that goes.

But these SeaFolk build buildings, stone buildings, which implies a more stationary existance. One does not build of stone (which requires quarrying, cutting, specialized skills, and record keeping) unless one has a more structured civilization.

I could very easily see them ranching fish, maintaining kelp forests (planting, harvesting, and harvesting co-inhabitants fish/ otters), ranching/ maintaining (we don't have a word for this) those reef ecologies for their own benefits, and so on. If you automatically think in 3D and don't have issues with aquatic existance being hostile, it should not be too hard to do these things. I mean we can do it with divers, bubble walls, kelp barriers/ nets, certainly they could.

Also: Nobody complains when Elves, who don't seemingly farm, have cities. Why would you complain about these folks having them?

Cultures with written languages have thrived and expanded beyond the "band" level. No culture with an exclusively verbal culture has expanded beyond the band level (which is neither inherently good nor bad). The problem with verbal loremasters is that with increasing complexity of contracts, with increased numbers, such systems tend to fail - promigating some form of tangible record keeping (writing, knotting, pictographs). All it takes is the wrong person (or three) to die, and entire "records" go away. This happened time and time again with Amarind cultures. One bad flu or an important plague or one battle and their history is mostly wiped out.

It also depends on their origin. If they are sunken cultures/ Atlanteans, they could of brought it with them. The writing could be their own cultural innovation, or they could of adapted it from Surface dwellers. Either way, a stationary society would have it.

If you can, check out Guns, Germs, and Steel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns,_Germs_and_Steel#Responses_to_criticisms_of_methodology Go to Comment
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Scrasamax's comment on 2005-07-09 10:49 PM
Writing is an arrogance of our agrarian, and sedentary lifestyle. The keeping of records and other boring information requires the skill of writing. Keeping the history and lore of a people, often in the form of oral epics is the place of the bard and loremaster. The merfolk arent farmers, they dont plant crops, dont till the undersea soil. They survive by hunting fish and gathering food from the coral reefs and such. Their language could be very large and intricate, with no written counterpart, and permanent messages recorded in stone in the form of pictographs, or in the borrowed tongue of some other aquatic race, or borrowed from us surface dwellers. Go to Comment
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Cheka Man's comment on 2005-11-06 05:43 PM
I like it. Mer-races need their courts of law, as much as land based races do. Go to Comment
The Road
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MoonHunter's comment on 2005-12-04 02:11 PM
I wonder how this got a vote without a comment. Well I endorse this thread. Of course, I wrote it. But Roger Zelazny wrote RoadMarks and Amber and this post is a homage to him. Go to Comment
The Road
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MoonHunter's comment on 2007-05-25 01:04 AM
More shameless bumping. Go to Comment
The Road
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MoonHunter's comment on 2008-09-09 11:10 PM
Updated: Updated for some very bad capitalization mistakes. Go to Comment
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MoonHunter's comment on 2008-09-09 11:11 PM
One should read Roadmarks. It is some fun popcorn for the mind.

The Amber Series (first seven) really should be read by any serious sci-fi fantasy fan, just like you should read The Lord of the Rings. Go to Comment
The Road
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MoonHunter's comment on 2008-03-03 03:50 PM
An Addition

Up the Road a little way from Now, you will find a number of offramps for The City. In fact, you can see The City from the Road, even if you don't stop.

The Road is a central point on the Multiversal Web of HappenTracks and WorldLines. Some would call it Cynosure, while others would call it The Only City. From the City, you can travel to just about anysphere or realm in the 'Verse. Go to Comment
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Scrasamax's comment on 2008-02-02 12:43 AM
Aside from being The Attack of the Parentheses, this is a fairly nice submission. I like the road analogy for time traveling, though I must admit I've not read Amber or Zelazny so I'll have to take your word on it ;) Go to Comment
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axlerowes's comment on 2009-10-30 03:46 PM
Nice enough idea. Go to Comment
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Moonlake's comment on 2013-07-05 11:25 PM
Quite nice concept, simple but having great utility uses. Go to Comment
Well of FireGems
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MoonHunter's comment on 2005-02-24 08:36 AM
And we disincline against swords because we have seen them before and they are cliche?

These four posts are best seen together. Any one, by itself, is fairly useless. It is is only when seen in combination that they make sense. Go to Comment
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MoonHunter's comment on 2005-03-01 08:13 AM
This Piece, like a few others, requires back story. The four posts put together are really one entry - accessible from four directions. Go to Comment
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MoonHunter's comment on 2006-01-22 02:32 PM
I need to write up the NPCs associated with the Order of the Flames post. Go to Comment
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Ancient Gamer's comment on 2005-02-21 10:22 PM
3/5 because of the sketchy appeance. It would not be difficult to use it as a template. The general idea on the main site, however, seems to be to provide a thorough background (for the item, as well as the organization).

In addition: there is too much of an "Excalibur look and feel" about the item for my taste. Altars are cool and invaluable, but these have been seen before in other incarnations. (The aforementioned Excalibur (in its stone), the Dragon orbs of Krynn/Dragonlance(resting on their altar/pedestal), etc...) Go to Comment
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