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Ancient Gamer's comment on 2007-08-28 12:05 PM
I think you guys are too quick to judge. Time travel is cool and possible, you just need to pull in the reins somewhat. Go to Comment
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Ancient Gamer's comment on 2007-08-28 01:54 PM
Only voted Go to Comment
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Ancient Gamer's comment on 2007-09-26 03:23 PM
Hmmm.... *tastes the word "Chronomage"*

Yuck. Must find a replacement. Go to Comment
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Chaosmark's comment on 2007-08-30 03:33 PM
Yeah. I'm working on my own entry to it, but it probably won't get done within the next few days, simply due to various factors that like to run interference with the Citadel (school, church, food, head injuries, etc.) Go to Comment
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Chaosmark's comment on 2007-08-30 04:44 PM
Strangely enough, so have I. What's up with that? Go to Comment
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Murometz's comment on 2007-08-30 04:16 PM
me, I've been timing out a lot lately Go to Comment
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valadaar's comment on 2007-08-27 11:13 AM
This is a good discussion on why time travel cannot/should not exist, but that was not the question/point of this sub. It is asking what your world would be like if it DID.

So we are in the realms of pure fantasy, as Time Travel is out of the pale for Hard Sci fi for the reasons already posted.

Obviously the accepted effects of time travel cannot happen otherwise it would not fit the premise that Time Travel does exist.

To avoid this, you need to consider time travel as a powerful Plot device and by no means allow unretricted access to this to the PCs. If you want the PCs to go back in time to kill dinosaurs, why not? The dinosaurs all die eventually and few make any real contribution to the future, except perhaps as fossil fuel and curiosities for scientists.

So what would keep it from being rampant?

1. Time is a river - a few stones dropped in will not affect it's course. There may be a few ripples but over time these work themselves out.

2. The Gods. Being by some accounts outside of time, they can easily reach in and make things right. Perhaps the gods are so detached generally because they are cleaning up the mess timetravellers cause.

3. Inertia of destiny. If you kill the great Baddies great grandfather, some other person very similar is born who fills the exact same place in destiny.

4. Active Defense. Any timeframe with magic-using beings is likely to employ seers of various types. They can, by seeing the future, act as warning devices aganist magical intrusion. They may not know (or care) that they come from the past, present or future. It is the affects of their intervention that the powers that be will likely seek to prevent. Those who stand to benefit might not take action, but those on the loosing side will definately take action.

5. Self Preservation. PCs will need to know that if they change too much, their own time might change radically. In short, it is in their best interest to be very subtle. Go to Comment
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valadaar's comment on 2007-08-28 04:40 AM
I think this is a good discussion... Go to Comment
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valadaar's comment on 2007-08-30 11:24 AM
Who was that masked Hordester? Go to Comment
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Wulfhere's comment on 2007-08-27 11:11 AM
In an essay on time travel, the science-ficton author Larry Niven postulated that in any universe where time travel was possible, it would never be developed. His reasoning was that in such a universe, people would travel in time until they intervened in the timestream in such a way as to catastrophically interfere with their culture's ability to travel in time. Once time travel became an impossibility, the timeline would no longer change. Go to Comment
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epsilon's comment on 2007-08-27 01:11 AM
The famous professor Lirekfen Kcabreist in his his book "Beyond Yesterdays Humbug" Made note that, no one had ever claimed time travel because once you exit the present, you no longer exist in that time line and as such can not return to it. When I say return I mean interact. You therefore are unable to boast and claim time travel.

Lets take a person known as Jim, ourselves and our perspective on the three separations of time.
A denotes past.
B denotes Jim's Present
C denotes future.
(A)
Jim stumbles across a time machine and travels back in time. Even tho he lands perfectly at 1820 he cannot interact with it in anyway. He is like a ghost, unseen, unheard and definitely unable to change. Because what he is seeing has already happened you see. Even tho from his perspective he is at the moment. That moment has already happened.
The girl gets run over by the milkman, its already happened. Jim is powerless to change something that has already transpired. We know its transpired because of the numerous happenings that can be traced back to that event. Even tho he has traveled back from the (B) to (A) he cant change (A) from our perspective, because to us (A) has already transpired. The dog is chasing its tail.
He can of course observe (A).

(B)
Poor Jim can now however no longer return to (B) as (B) from his perspective and ours has moved on. He wasn't there when his boss burst into the room to catch him red handed at the scotch bottle, instead of doing his work. Jim was also,unable to breath out, in the split second after he time jumped and thus did not pass on the flu virus, to the tea lady who was just about to enter and offer him afternoon tea. So Jims future from our perspecitve is changed dramatically, in that same way as if Jim has suffered a fatal heart attack. Those who's time lines are connected to his are changed.

(C)
Jim cannot find a stable lock on the future, because it hasn't transpired yet. That is, the intricate and chaotic events, from which the time fabric is weaved, can at any one moment produce zillions of future outcomes. Because that trigger event has not yet transpired, one cannot jump to the next event or end result of the string of events. That future stone may not exist at all or be anywhere from a few milliseconds to hours from a predicted path.

Jim is lost in time, to time. He has no way of reconnecting himself back to a timeline that we can observe.

Lirekfen also goes on to observe and dispel, the possible link or theory that haunted houses and ghost n such are simply lost time travelers. Lirekfen was reported to have rebuked a student at one of his lectures once with.

"Did you not listen! At point (A) you can not interact with anything from that time. If for example you saw a ghost, you may stop, or scream. Those events however trivial would change the course of events. But we the observers know the course of events, we have history, we have evidence. Now sit down, before I really show you how to create ghosts. And next time, think of A and B before you mutter and create a C that shouldn't exist."
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epsilon's comment on 2007-08-27 07:54 PM
mm maybe I was too subtle in my above text. I was eluding too this thought. It might be of interest for a bunch of characters to end up together in this "outsidetime". A plot, a location, a world, in itself, fighting off whatever falls in with them and desperately trying to find themselves a "timehome". Go to Comment
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Strolen's comment on 2007-09-03 07:37 PM
It started out great and I was sucked right in and then it seemed to run out of air. The rape thing was a great idea and a very interesting problem but there is no clues on how to fix this dilemna. They will remain guilty forever, even if somehow the bush is proved to be stolen...that really doesn't have anything to do with the actual plot that the PCs are involved with. I doubt the princess would get in much trouble for stealing a bush, regardless of its value. There are no clues on how to prove that anyway.

Just not sure what to do with it, but there is definitely something there! I loved the first half, just needs a better ending in my mind. Go to Comment
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manfred's comment on 2007-08-12 07:13 PM
They should, and they will! Soon! Go to Comment
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manfred's comment on 2007-08-13 02:39 PM
I like the formatting and the writing, but must complain of one thing: the plot is horribly linear, made to force a group of heroes into the story exactly as it is written. Oh, and they will be wanted criminals in a large city while being completely innocent - and are not likely to be able to prove it after the plot is over.

Don't get me wrong, you've shown what could be done out of this exotic mix - it could be easily enlarged to a mini-campaign, with the PCs falling into the thrall of the Lady, maybe even stealing the plant themselves; and at last recognizing her true nature, at which point she would promptly condemn the group to death. The payback would be more than sweet, whether just by executing her; or by proving her role in the invasion (smart PCs could even argue for peace between the city and the invaders). More could be made of this. Go to Comment
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manfred's comment on 2007-08-14 09:36 AM
Oh, a first plot! Then it is a premiere - and you are determined to continue, which is all well.

(By the way, the quest isn't over yet, so you are more than free to expand the plot - and more options never hurt. ;) ) Go to Comment
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Scrasamax's comment on 2007-08-13 11:57 AM
This was a delight to read, I hadn't considered other people using my submissions in their quest entries. Good job CM. Go to Comment
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Cheka Man's comment on 2007-08-12 05:52 PM
More people should vote for this. Go to Comment
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Ancient Gamer's comment on 2007-08-13 02:21 PM
Get used to it then. Your subs are in my quest list too! ;) Go to Comment
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Ancient Gamer's comment on 2007-08-14 01:19 PM
Hear that CP? You are famous now! Go to Comment
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